Heer Beamter/Sonderf?hrer photos

[Laurence Strong]

Some new photo's I have recieved

First is a young looking Leutnant Beamte auf Kriegsdaur with a Middle/Elevated career

[Laurence Strong]

The reverse. If you can translate the inscription I would be in your debt.

[Laurence Strong]

The next 2 I recieved from Timo (Noor). Many thanks my friend

A pre war photo of a Beamte official, with I think a Black (Technical) nebenfarbe and a Medium/Elevated career who was in the 1st war. I am hoping some one can help with the medal bar. I recognize the EK2, a Hindenburg Cross for Combatants, Is that a Silesian Eagle award beside it? And a Heer long service medal but that is all

Edited July 13, 2008 by Laurence Strong

[Laurence Strong]

The reverse. Once again a translation would be apprecitatd. This one is tiny only about 2x2 inches.

Edited July 13, 2008 by Laurence Strong

[Laurence Strong]

A Sonderfuhrer with what could be a WW1 Silver Wound badge and a ribbon bar I could not even begin to fiqure out. There is nothing on the reverse

Many thanks for looking :cheers:

[Guest Rick Research]

Last fellow was an Austrian. 2nd through 5th ribbons are a grand slam of either all four classes (Gold, Large Silver, Small Silver, Bronze) of their WW1 bravery medals or multiples of those with a Merit Cross on war ribbon-- but I think from lack of swords he's got Everything There Was To Get for bravery medals.

1st one--

Meinen lb. Vater

ein Bild von seinem

Sohn Paul

Bad Aachen, den 5.10.1941

To my dear father

a picture from his

son Paul

2nd one was already researched--

http://gmic.co.uk/index.php?showtopic=25453&hl=Honisch

Zur

freundlichen Erinnerungen

von

Ferdinand Honisch

K?ln, den 17./7.39

In

friendly remembrance

of

[Laurence Strong]

Many thanks Rick, and a thanks to Glenn as well I missed the 1st class Eagle.

Edited July 13, 2008 by Laurence Strong

[Paul R]

These are some great and uncommon photos. I like the Austrian war hero the best!

[Brian R]

Here is larger portrait of Ferdinand Honisch. It's actually a different photo as you can see that his head is in a slightly different position. His bar is a bit clearer in this one...

[Laurence Strong]

Hi Brian many thanks for showing that photo. This is all more than I had hoped for If you ever want to get rid of that photo...... :cheeky:

[Laurence Strong]

These are some great and uncommon photos. I like the Austrian war hero the best!

Thanks Paul

[coldstream]

One I picked up some time ago. I believe him to be an Administration official of some kind but I cannot see any insignia on his apparently very thin shoulder boards.

The medal bar appears to be cut off by the photograph.

[Roman Slivin]

:beer:

[Laurence Strong]

Hi Coldstream

Those are a different set of boards all right. There is no doubt he is a Beamter as seen by the Dark piping on his cap, and the white around the colar tabs.

Hi Roman

That is one sweet photo.

Thanks to you both for p[osting these.

[Guest Rick Research]

That last fellow (note the Wehrmacht 12 and 4 Years Service Medal ribbons, suggesting a former career NCO) wearing an officer's tunic and collar tabs with an enlisted type silver bullion BeVo breast eagle and "sergeant-major" equivalent shoulder boards. An interesting combination I've never seen before!

[Paul R]

The mystery shoulder boards on your Official look like those used by the LSW and SHD! I have never seen anything like it on a Heer uniform! I have placed a set of these boards below..

Rick,

I have never seen that mixture of officer and NCO insignia before either. Perhaps he was a probationary member(the LW does something similar), who will be advanced to an officer grade after a certain amount of time has passed. To me, this is the only thing that will make any sense.

[Laurence Strong]

Hi Paul

Those cords were used by Beamte auf Kreigsdaur for awhile, and though he is wearing what i believe to be the correct style tabs, they look to have a white nebenfarbe as opposed to the grey nebenfarbe that was used by a Beamte a. K.

Edited July 16, 2008 by Laurence Strong

[Laurence Strong]

Some new photo's that have arrived

First is an older Zahlmeister/Sekretar wearing a full uniform. From the date of the photo, and his age, I wonder if he was one of the civilians who were incorporated into the Wehrmacht in 1934?

Once again any help with the translation is greatly appreciated.

[Laurence Strong]

Another beamte officer. I don't think he has a white nebenfarbe though. A little damage on the one side.

Edited September 6, 2008 by Laurence Strong

[Paul R]

Can you make a magnified scan of the shoulder board?

[Laurence Strong]

This is a nice one. A Beamte a. K. of a Medium/Elevated career, with the Winterschlacht im Osten ribbon.

Many thanks for looking. :cheers:

[Paul R]

I agree Larry!! This is one of your better ones!

[Guest Rick Research]

:Cat-Scratch: Interesting to me to see that he's wearing the hat with funny colored capband and collar for Sonderf?hrers, wartime duration tabs, but what looks like (?) normal Beamter boards yet he's signed it (horrible handwriting, I think his name was "Heytrak") as "Obzm" which must be "Oberzahlmeister."

I love weirdly obscure uniforms. :cheers:

[Paul R]

I love weirdly obscure uniforms.

Me too! I am confused by this as well... was there a point when Heer Sonderfuhrer shared the HV boards with the Admin Officials?

[Roman Slivin]

:cheers: