Franz von Papen Decorations

[Alexandre]

Hello Gentlemen,

im trying to recognise the decorations in this picture of von Papen.

Can anyone help me ?

BTW , im looking for a complete list of decorations of von Papen

Thx in advance

regards

(picture from www.ullsteinbilde.de)

[Guest Rick Research]

:Cat-Scratch: I've never seen a photo of von Papen in a Nazi diplomatic uniform before.

CRAPPY picture, by the way. Too small and blurry to be much help.

Among his awards was a Prussian Hohenzollern House Order 3rd Class X (HOH3X) which should be the 2nd ribbon. The last three are Ottoman Turkish, with the final one being for the War Medal star (TH).

[Alexandre]

Hello Rick,

Yes, this picture isnt ?very good

When you say the turkish War Medal star, you refer the Gallipoli Star ???

regards

[Daniel Krause]

Hi,

that is what I have about Papen:

KVKRKX, KO4, HOH3X, HEK1???, HEK3, JM1, LEK5, ?EK3K, SMV1, TI2X, TH

Best regards

Daniel

[Alexandre]

Hello Daniel,

I don?t reconigse these abbreviations :

KO4

JM1

LEK5

SMV1

Please, Do you can translate ??

BTW, in this picture he was wearing 2 brest stars, do you know them ??

Best regards

Alexandre

Edited July 29, 2008 by Alexandre

[Daniel Krause]

Hi Alexandre,

KO4 - Prussian Crown Order 4th class

JM1 - Italian Mairice and Lazaro Grand cross - the lower one of the stars

LEK5 - Luxemburg Order of the Oak Crown knights cross

SMV1 - Spain Military Merit Order 1st class

upper star- no idea.

Best regards

Daniel

Edited July 29, 2008 by Daniel Krause

[Alexandre]

Hello Daniel

Thx a lot, very apreciated

Best regards

Alexandre

[Paul R]

He has the same blank look as Ted Knight in his role of Ted Baxter on the old Mary Tyler Moore show. He looks like he is prepared to say something totally off the wall and meaningless...

[922F]

He has the same blank look as Ted Knight in his role of Ted Baxter on the old Mary Tyler Moore show. He looks like he is prepared to say something totally off the wall and meaningless...

And, often, so he was!! Looks like his Order of Malta badge at his neck in the 2nd photo--lots of internet links on the "conspiracy theory" regarding that Order c.f. searches for

1. Baron Franz Joseph Hermann Michael Maria von Papen - Politician who Helped Adolf Hitler to power; Reichskonkordat Negotiator
2. General Reinhard Gehlen - Nazi Chief of Intelligence over Russia; Head of Gehlen Org; Head of BND

At any rate, von Papen was elevated to Knight Magistral Grand Cross of SMOM in April 1933.

It is likely the upper star in the 2nd photo is that of the Hungarian Regency Order of Merit--von Papen held a number of awards from "friendly' countries including Hungary, Romania & Bulgaria--do not know whether he got anything from Croatia or Slovakia but would not be surprised if he did.

[P.F.]

Franz von Papen was also a holder of the Vatican Order of Pope Pius IX.