Paul R Posted October 28, 2005 Posted October 28, 2005 ... and what a beautiful baby it is !Is there a maker mark under the pin?Paul
Paul R Posted October 29, 2005 Posted October 29, 2005 Welcome to this forum and great to see you here!Thank you for the extra pic!
Jan Arne S Posted October 29, 2005 Posted October 29, 2005 Hi Flak88 !Here is the brother in bad condition . This badge has had a hird life . Strange with this Uboot Award is the maker mark on pin . Has discused badge with Gordon , and sent high quality scan to Him . Badge is marked "4" on pin !!! But not beleived to be a S&L badge . Jan Arne
Larry Lipps Posted October 29, 2005 Posted October 29, 2005 Wish I could join in the discussion, but mine's had a harder life yet.
Flak88 Posted October 29, 2005 Author Posted October 29, 2005 I love the eagle - just my favorite U-boat badge maker, even if it is unknown.Marc
Gordon Williamson Posted October 29, 2005 Posted October 29, 2005 My vote would still go with Juncker for these. I've seen them with spurious Schwerin marks ( coincidentally, from the same source as original Juncker Aux Cruiser Badges with spurious Schwerin marks).The first pattern Juncker Bar to the Iron Cross First Class can be found with identical pin/hinge fittings as found on some of this type U-Boat badge.Jan Arne's badge is unusual, but I don't believe Steinhauer is the maker. The Steinhauer catalogue shows a badge very similar to Schwerin/ Deumer's style, nothing like this.Even if we don't know with any certainty who made them, they are still one of the nicest of all U-Boat badges, the eagle is awesome.
Stogieman Posted November 2, 2005 Posted November 2, 2005 Yes, beautiful badges. I would have expected Juncker-made ones to have a more delicate/refined appearance to the pin/catch though... more in lines with their WW2 era Imperial Sub Badges and their WW2 Auxiliary Cruiser ones??
Gordon Williamson Posted November 2, 2005 Posted November 2, 2005 Not necessarily Rick. Have a look at the furniture on this original Juncker Spange (L/12 marked). Photo courtesy Mark Miller collection.
Gordon Williamson Posted November 2, 2005 Posted November 2, 2005 Now compare it with Mark M's own example of the U-Boat Badge by this maker. (Marc Gs version of course has the additional feature of a cut out swastika)
Gordon Williamson Posted November 2, 2005 Posted November 2, 2005 The quality of execution of the eagle on these badges is unsurpassed by any other maker. (They may have made crap Knight's Crosses, but they were capable of turning out superb quality products when they tried )
Gordon Williamson Posted November 2, 2005 Posted November 2, 2005 Also, this badge comes with a number of different types of pin fitting, some of which are just as nicely done as the Juncker Aux Cruiser.
Stogieman Posted November 2, 2005 Posted November 2, 2005 The top example, last photo is very close to this one... which I felt strongly was a Juncker-made piece as well! these additional examples tend towards a little more refined/what I would expect. You know me, never say never, but the earlier posted examples sure looked clutzy/crude!!
Stogieman Posted November 2, 2005 Posted November 2, 2005 Interesting that the finish in the scans looks similar as well.......
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