Bavarian Regimental Cross

[Eric Stahlhut]

[Eric Stahlhut]

home made bar out of thick paper product, safety pin, and uniform insignia clip

[Riley1965]

:jumping: That is a VERY nice medal!!! I only have one Bavarian medal in my collection. Did every regiment have a variation of this medal?

Doc

[Eric Stahlhut]

hiya doc,

there are a wide range of these types or regimental crosses. as far as i know, the five major variarions were; treu dem regiment, treu der division, treu dem battaillon, treu dem marine. the were two forms of cross design as well. this is the later, or newer form i think.

many types of ribbon were used, and of course each military entity had it's own unique clasp/insignia to attach to the ribbon.

if i recall correctly, claudio is somewhat of an authority on these crosses. perhaps he can elaborate further...or you can do a search for threads he has previously commented on.

:cheers:

[Tom Y]

Here's one forBavarian Infantrie Regiment 15 K?nig von Sachsen. Sorrz I don?t have a scan of the reverse.

[Riley1965]

:jumping: WOW!!! Thanks Tom!!! It seems that one could make a small collection of just these regimental medals.

Doc

[Chip]

I have had more in the past. Now down to two. There was recently a bunch of them for sale on Ebay. I saved the pictures. They sold for prices from $40 and up.

[Chip]

..and number two. The official name is Regiments Erinnerungs Kreuz (REK). There was a nice document for them as well. I think I have a picture of one somewhere.

Edited September 29, 2008 by Chip

[Ulsterman]

Nice pieces-

remember when they used to be ignored?

Tony Colson would have loved this thread.

[Claudio]

Hi everybody!

Actually it's my brother who collect these; the only catalogue who mention these Weimar Era Veterans' self awarded vanity awards it's Niemann's, under the title "Regimental Commemorative Cross of the former German Army" (DN 2.02.22). There were several types, the one pictured showed at the beginning of this thread by Eric, it's a Bavarian type cross (see Bavarian coat of arms on the reverse medallion and the unit's description).

Here I show you a cross from another Region... Braunschweig (Hannover).

Ciao,

Claudio

Edited September 29, 2008 by Claudio

[Claudio]

Reverse... Here you can the Imperial eagle, instead of the Bavarian "Wappen"...

Ciao,

Claudio

Edited September 29, 2008 by Claudio

[Claudio]

Another two Bavarian Cross but with the Imperial eagle medallion... sorry for the bad photos, but digital camera sucks for detailed pictures... The swords pointing downwards it's correct; it means an armed conflict (war) lost.

Edited September 29, 2008 by Claudio

[Claudio]

Reverse... As you can see the shape of the crosses was different... the one with crosses had a different shape comparing the crosses without swords.

Ciao,

Claudio

Edited September 29, 2008 by Claudio

[Wild Card]

Nice pieces-

remember when they used to be ignored?

Tony Colson would have loved this thread.

Thank you Ulsterman. Going through this thread, I was thinking the same

thing when I came to your post. Tony had to have had one of the finest

collections of regimental crosses and veteran's association pins ever put

together.

It is a shame that so much of his research was left unpublished.

To Tony and his memory!

[Ulsterman]

Hear Hear!! :cheers:

Perhaps one day in a few years we can all do a Festshrift in his name.

Edited September 29, 2008 by Ulsterman

[Christian J]

These are very nice and still affordable, but steadily rising.

I've been on the lookout for one for F?silier Rgt. K?nigin Victoria von Schweden (Pommersches) Nr. 34 for years but not been successful, anybody seen one?

[Eric Stahlhut]

perhaps the title of this thread should be simplified in order to reflect all of the regions depicted?

is there a moderator with editing superpowers lurking about somewhere, hmmm? :catjava:

Edited September 29, 2008 by Eric Stahlhut

[Noor]

Is it right that this medal is some kind a unofficial 100th years of the 14th Bavaria Inf. Reg. medal?

[Eric Stahlhut]

my favorite: from a veteran of the franco-prussian war living in the u.s.

[Chip]

Nice photos Ulsterman. First time I have noticed these being worn.

Chip

[Ulsterman]

Thanks Chip!

I have more. I bought a roll of undeveloped film @ 10 years ago of an as yet unidentified local vets reunion @ 1930. Lots of the men are wearing no medals, but about 40% were wearing something or other. There were a surprising number of Alfons badges.

Edited October 7, 2008 by Ulsterman

[jj08]

Is it right that this medal is some kind a unofficial 100th years of the 14th Bavaria Inf. Reg. medal?

There are lots of these examples around from various regiments. Moss date around 1913. Some a little earlier. Basically the regiments had an authority to issue their own medals - these relate to the 25, 50 0r 100 year birthdays of the regiments. The 1913 period had particular significance in Prussia, because this related to the war of liberation '1813'. I do recall/ think seeing a photo (I cant find my copy!) in the introductory section of Charles WoolleyUniforms & Equipment of the Imperial German Army 1900-1918

where there is a full page shot of a retired Dragoon NCO - and there looks like a 100 yr medal & bow is pinned following the ribbon bar.

[Chip]

The subject of regimental medals is a vast one in itself and deserves a separate thread, should there be enough interest. I think many of these subjects have been covered in the past, but those old threads may well be on the WA forum from the days before this one became so popular and many of the most knowledgeable members moved here.

Chip