sef1962 Posted January 27, 2009 Posted January 27, 2009 (edited) Hello just came in today late due to HM customs opened but not damaged thank God! The EKII marked with C on ring, Hessian bravery medal marked 925 on ring +very small insription on rim of medal I can't figure a way to show this, also it hurts my eyes with magnifying glass.My question is LE MANS from Franco-Prussian war thats got to be to early for the rest ? Any comments appreciated thanks Mark Edited January 27, 2009 by sef1962
HeikoGrusdat Posted January 27, 2009 Posted January 27, 2009 yup.........Le Mans has nothing to do with this medal bar - all the other clasps belong to the Flandernkreuz but it seems to be a put together thing because of the very different condition of the clasps... :unsure:
VtwinVince Posted January 27, 2009 Posted January 27, 2009 I concur with Heiko, not a possible combination.
Ulsterman Posted January 28, 2009 Posted January 28, 2009 Is that Le Mans a real bar though? If so, not a bad buy in and of itself.Interesting "Seekampf" too-as if might be to a Matrozen Division member (weren't they all on the coast in Belgium?).
cartoonman Posted January 28, 2009 Posted January 28, 2009 LEMANS is "a real bar," for 1870-71... The Germans didn't make it that far again until 1940... when they marched past my great-grandfather's house towards Nantes and the Atlantic...Is that Le Mans a real bar though? If so, not a bad buy in and of itself.Interesting "Seekampf" too-as if might be to a Matrozen Division member (weren't they all on the coast in Belgium?).
cartoonman Posted January 28, 2009 Posted January 28, 2009 Has anyone a photo of a campaign bar on an EK2 Ribbon? Never have seen such, in my limited exposure... Gotta photo to prove it?! LEMANS is "a real bar," for 1870-71... The Germans didn't make it that far again until 1940... when they marched past my great-grandfather's house towards Nantes and the Atlantic...
VtwinVince Posted January 28, 2009 Posted January 28, 2009 Gene, I have an EK2 bar with two clasps, courtesy of Heiko. I believe they are private purchase items from Heinrich Timm. Sorry, but I can't post photos on this site.
sef1962 Posted January 28, 2009 Author Posted January 28, 2009 I realised this wasn't quite kosher when i got it the sum of the parts exceeds what i paid for it, the decision now is what to do with it split it up or keep it as a lesson learned ?
cartoonman Posted January 28, 2009 Posted January 28, 2009 Hmmmm; Keep it as worthless and embarrassing reminder that I got schnookered, or dismantle it and make back more than I paid for it.... Hmmmmmm I realised this wasn't quite kosher when i got it the sum of the parts exceeds what i paid for it, the decision now is what to do with it split it up or keep it as a lesson learned ?
Tom Y Posted January 29, 2009 Posted January 29, 2009 Has anyone a photo of a campaign bar on an EK2 Ribbon? Never have seen such, in my limited exposure... Gotta photo to prove it?! Here's a Timm bar on one. Strictly unofficial.
cartoonman Posted January 29, 2009 Posted January 29, 2009 Thanks, oh Bearded Madman! So, anything goes, eh?Well, then, I think I'll add a "Disneyland" clasp to one of my parade bars... Here's a Timm bar on one. Strictly unofficial.
speedytop Posted January 29, 2009 Posted January 29, 2009 Hi,some more bars wanted? Anything goes!RegardsUwe
Ulsterman Posted January 29, 2009 Posted January 29, 2009 Good Lord! That's 33% of Timm's production!Gordon McGregor has Timm's ad in his book.
cartoonman Posted January 29, 2009 Posted January 29, 2009 Apparently so! Shamefully so! But your photo brings a more general question to mind... Why, oh why would you leave all those medals with their rings showing??? I know lots of collectors do as you do, but the bars were never intended to be shown that way... Why not tuck 'em in? Very, very gently and carefully...Orden-Ordnung mu? sein! Hi,some more bars wanted? Anything goes!RegardsUwe
speedytop Posted January 29, 2009 Posted January 29, 2009 (edited) Hi cartoonman,you can not see it, but the only medal, where I can do that without damage, is the last one.This must be the way, the former wearer carried it.Ordnung muss sein, aber nur da, wo es auch Sinn macht.But, most of the people look on the beautiful bars .Could it be that Rick is able to identify the owner ? So many hints !Kind regardsUwe Edited January 29, 2009 by speedytop
cartoonman Posted January 29, 2009 Posted January 29, 2009 Ich verstehe, wass du meinst, und ich sehe, wie die andere Orden jetzt fest gemacht sind, aber... hab' ich nie so in 'n Foto gemacht! Kann ich kaum vorstellen...! Vielleicht ist es nicht im Ganzen original....? [Trans: I know what you think and I see how the other medals are currently fastened, but... I've never seen a photo with them like that! I can hardly imagine! Perhaps it's not completely original...?]---Not Trying To Make TroubleHi cartoonman,you can not see it, but the only medal, where I can do that without damage, is the last one.This must be the way, the former wearer carried it.Ordnung muss sein, aber nur da, wo es auch Sinn macht.But, most of the people look on the beautiful bars .Could it be that Rick is able to identify the owner ? So many hints !Kind regardsUwe
speedytop Posted January 30, 2009 Posted January 30, 2009 I don't have problems with this bar. And I think, that it was a really hard work, to complete this exceptionally bar.And take note please, there was a period before 1933/1934 (before the "Hindenburg Cross"), in which several soldiers wore monstrous bars. Official or not official.You can see it on several pictures from this time.Uwe
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