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    Posted

    Hello WNickel,

    :love: Congratulations on a fantastic group, that has to be about as good as it gets.

    In my opinion, the real beauty of miniatures is not so much in quantity, but in the

    artistic craftsmanship of many individual pieces, of which this group obviously

    has many examples.

    Again, congratulations and thank you for sharing this magnificent group.

    Best wishes,

    Wild Card

    Guest Rick Research
    Posted

    :Cat-Scratch: Ogh! A wretched CIVILIAN!!!!! :banger: Got a name? I can verify dates from that, but my data isn't set up for anyone but military recipients. BTW, from my perusal of the Schaumburg and Detmold rolls, I'd say your guy has :unsure:left things OFF!!!! :speechless1:

    Guest Rick Research
    Posted

    5th from left Langensalza 1866?

    Posted

    GREAT chain :speechless1: There are awards on it that I have never seen as miniatures before, only full sized.

    I dream of finding chains with one or two enamel awards--yours looks like an enamel salesmans sampler.

    WELL DONE !!!

    Posted (edited)

    Deleted due to hallucinations (lack of sleep :D)

    I realize the golden thingy is the oakleaf for the Waldeck order.

    /Mike

    Edited by Great Dane
    Guest Rick Research
    Posted

    Your ? is Waldeck. Mine is Langensalza Medal?

    There's just about everything BUT Baden and Saxony in there. :speechless1:

    Part of what is making possible identification difficult is that I think SOME of these are "Kleindekorations" for COMMANDER grade awards, so not all are the classes worn on medal bars...

    beyond which I'm lost for finding people.

    Posted

    No Bavaria either... a Brunswick 1879-1886 Landwehr schnalle 2nd class...

    a Langensalza medal (?) with no other Hannoverian decorations...

    all decorations mounted in what appears to me to be a haphazard order

    (PrKO and RAO separated by five other pieces)... Lippe probably the

    strongest state represented... no swords to any orders...

    is that a Centenary medal (third from left?), no oaks on the EK...

    just some random observations.

    I sure would like to know who this is and see his story.

    Posted (edited)

    There is a

    v. Alten, Ernst Reinhold Moritz, Schaumburg-Lippische Hofmarschall.

    who received the Danish Order of Dannebrog (Commander 1. class aka Grand Officer) on 6. June 1905.

    Could that be your man?

    If yes, the cypher above the Dannebrog cross should be Christian IX (C R ix).

    /Mike

    Edited by Great Dane
    Posted

    ...that looks good.. maybe the Ordensalmanach NdON 2 is wrong and must be DanD 2b....exists a list of the german members of the Dannebrog???

    Guest Rick Research
    Posted

    AHA!!! :jumping: What a WEIRD acreer-- NONCOMBATANT 1870 Iron Cross when he was only 23-- will have to check Glenn's 1870 EK list for the explanation of THAT! :speechless1:

    Figured these were "Kleindekorations" throwing off "medal bar" identifications.

    EH2b from Altenburg 05.11.87, and 2a on 06.11.97. 2b as "Ernst von Alten-Wormsthal."

    Ernst von Alten was decorated by his own Schaumburg Lippe early, twice, and never again.

    His FIRST Ehrenkreuz (2nd Class) was awarded on 18 April 1886 according to the Schaumburg roll and 17 April 1886 according to the Detmold roll-- when it was a JOINT House Order.

    He then received the 2nd Class (from Schaumburg) AGAIN on 1 July 1893-- and never got anything from them again! NO LDH3 BTW-- typical Orders Almanac screwup-- even the recipients couldn't figure out pre- and post-1890 Lippe Honor Crosses, oy. :speechless:

    These double 2nd Classes are quite bizarrely high for someody as young (at the time) as him, and to never have had even a partial "bump up" again seems weird.

    But then his entire life was apparently weird, so........ :catjava:

    Guest Rick Research
    Posted

    Sure enough-- here he is as a "white-black" EK2 1870 recipient, from Glenn's CD:

    But how in God's name could this even have been POSSIBLE? Aiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiaaaaaaaaaaaaaaiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiieaggghhhhhhh!!!!

    Mini 1870 for COMBATANTS, not STEEL? :speechless1:

    :speechless1:

    Uh, :speechless1:

    Posted

    seeheld,

    Congratulations! :love: Here is another group that so well illustrates ?The beauty of Miniatures?.

    Incidentally, if you find out who these were awarded to, I may be able to give you the year of

    The Guelph award.

    Best wishes, :beer:

    Wild Card

    Posted

    Thank you, this will be nice.

    According to salomon and sascha is the name

    Iffland, f?rstl. lipp. Kammerdirektor in B?ckeburg :jumping: :jumping: :jumping:

    Wild Crad, maybe you can carry out a cross check.

    Regards Seeheld

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