CRBeery Posted May 14, 2009 Share Posted May 14, 2009 I bought this bar in December of last year and it was missing the second medal. Easy enough to replace as several dealers have them available but for some reason I just let this sit for a while. While on vacation in December I was looking at the other items the Ebay seller that sold me the bar had sold and I saw that the medal was sold as a single weeks before the bar! No way to predict this and save the set and I was a little pained by this. A few weeks ago I was talking to an old collecting friend and we were going over the "what's new" lists. I mentioned this bar and he informed me that I had outbid him on it. He mentioned that --- he had the single medal from this buyer!!!! So my old Austrian documents that I bought in Speyer went to his house and the medal... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CRBeery Posted May 14, 2009 Author Share Posted May 14, 2009 The 1870/71 KDM is steel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kev in Deva Posted May 14, 2009 Share Posted May 14, 2009 The 1870/71 KDM is steel.Nice looking bar, so a non-combatant 1870 / 71 medal on a combatant ribbon, is that known to have happened? Has it been seen before, pictured in period pictures?Kevin in Deva Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saschaw Posted May 14, 2009 Share Posted May 14, 2009 Nice bar and story! is that known to have happened? Has it been seen before, pictured in period pictures?Well, according to J. Nimmergut, opus magnum V, there were- 1,107,756 in "Bronze am Band f?r Kombattanten"- 341,949 in "Stahl am Band f?r Kombattanten"- 57,094 in "Stahl am Band f?r Nicht-Kombattanten"awarded. Not to uncommon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kev in Deva Posted May 14, 2009 Share Posted May 14, 2009 Nice bar and story! Well, according to J. Nimmergut, opus magnum V, there were- 1,107,756 in "Bronze am Band f?r Kombattanten"- 341,949 in "Stahl am Band f?r Kombattanten"- 57,094 in "Stahl am Band f?r Nicht-Kombattanten"awarded. Not to uncommon.Many thanks for that information, do you know why this was done?Kevin in Deva. :cheers: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ulsterman Posted May 14, 2009 Share Posted May 14, 2009 It had to do with the combatant status of the individual. RR can say more (indeed I think there's a thread on these).One of the things I have noticed over the years is that Doctors/medical/ nurses who ran field hospitals in France originally were given combatant medals in 1872/3 and then a year later-got noncombat medals. I have seen THREE groups like this over the past decade, with the documents. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Rick Research Posted May 14, 2009 Share Posted May 14, 2009 Superb bar in fantastic condition and CONGRATULATIONS not only on a restoration but on the actual reunification!The steel medal on combatant ribbon was given to stay at homes. Irrationally, non-arms bearers who served in combat got the steel on noncombatants medal. Should have been the other way around, but somebody wasn't thinking straight at the Prussian Orders Chancery. :speechless: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Great Dane Posted May 14, 2009 Share Posted May 14, 2009 Splendid. Well done!What I don't quite understand is why the seller chose to sell just this - apparently not particularly rare - medal separately from the bar?/Mike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wild Card Posted May 16, 2009 Share Posted May 16, 2009 Nice bar and story! Well, according to J. Nimmergut, opus magnum V, there were- 1,107,756 in "Bronze am Band f?r Kombattanten"- 341,949 in "Stahl am Band f?r Kombattanten"- 57,094 in "Stahl am Band f?r Nicht-Kombattanten"awarded. Not to uncommon.Remember this one? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RAO Posted May 16, 2009 Share Posted May 16, 2009 What is that, 2 KDM, why?Thanks and Regards, Mike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saschaw Posted May 17, 2009 Share Posted May 17, 2009 Remember this one?Sure, I do. Even yout matching chain.. Not to common. Mike, I don't know. Maybe he got the one from this regulations and then the other one after that regulations. There was some changes in the awarding rules for those, if I remember correctly. However, I'm pretty sure he should only have worn one of those two. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wild Card Posted May 17, 2009 Share Posted May 17, 2009 Oh, yes... the matching chain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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