Sergeant 08 Posted November 4, 2010 Share Posted November 4, 2010 (edited) Brunswick HR17 flask...............(with Prussian skull !!) No jawless skull! The great-grandfather of the SS visor cap skull second pattern! ;) Edited November 4, 2010 by Sergeant 08 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robin Lumsden Posted November 4, 2010 Author Share Posted November 4, 2010 (edited) No jawless skull! The great-grandfather of the SS visor cap skull second pattern! Like this.....Prussian, with a jaw! :cheeky: Edited November 4, 2010 by Robin Lumsden 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sergeant 08 Posted November 5, 2010 Share Posted November 5, 2010 That circus man liked both kinds of insignia! Imperial Brunswick and Prussia skulls. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sergeant 08 Posted November 7, 2010 Share Posted November 7, 2010 What a nice flag! :cool: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomas W Posted November 10, 2010 Share Posted November 10, 2010 My flamethrower book was finally published. I sent a copy to a Bulgarian friend to deliver to the National Museum of Military History in Sofia, because they'd been so helpful. My friend sent me a photo of a museum staffer accepting the book. There's a book in that photo? Really? Where? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chip Posted November 10, 2010 Share Posted November 10, 2010 Well, I'm adding Sofia and the museum to my list for the next time I get to Europe. Chip Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robin Lumsden Posted November 10, 2010 Author Share Posted November 10, 2010 My flamethrower book was finally published. Congratulations, Thomas! :cheers: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robin Lumsden Posted November 10, 2010 Author Share Posted November 10, 2010 There's a book in that photo? Really? Where? There's a girl in that photo? Really? Where? :cheeky: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomas W Posted November 10, 2010 Share Posted November 10, 2010 (edited) There's a girl in that photo? Really? Where? Young man, I worry about you. There's more to life than skulls! But I appreciate the thanks. (The publisher still has my !@#$%^&* photo collection, by the way. The very dark Totenkopf is on page 67 of the book, under the chapter on the Ottoman Empire. I was going to scan it and post it here, but when I enlarged it, all I could see was dots. I have to wait until my collection is returned to me.) Edited November 10, 2010 by Thomas W Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robin Lumsden Posted November 11, 2010 Author Share Posted November 11, 2010 The very dark Totenkopf is ............. under the chapter on the Ottoman Empire. Funny you should say that..................about a year ago, someone suggested to me that the black skull (with red eyes) might be some sort of Turkish version of the German badge. They thought so because of the colour scheme. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robin Lumsden Posted November 11, 2010 Author Share Posted November 11, 2010 Young man, I worry about you. There's more to life than skulls! At my age, 'skulls' is all there is. :whistle: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomas W Posted November 11, 2010 Share Posted November 11, 2010 (edited) Funny you should say that..................about a year ago, someone suggested to me that the black skull (with red eyes) might be some sort of Turkish version of the German badge. They thought so because of the colour scheme. As soon as I finished that flamethrower book the publisher asked me to write a book about German assault troops that I just finished. It's incredible the number of unofficial shock-troop badges there were. The new book will show several different "S" badges, colored rectangles, wreaths, an "H" badge on the shoulder strap (for "Handgranate"), numerals, crossed grenades, single grenades, and a chevron, all (except the "H") on the upper left arm or left elbow. All are in period photos, not modern collections. Besides the grenade and crossed-grenade badges, none of these have been described in any sources I've seen. None were authorized, either, so it's not out of the realm of possibility that someone would knock up an unofficial black-skull badge. The Austrians based their own assault-troop badges on the skull worn by the flamethrower platoon of Sturmbataillon Nr. 5 (Rohr), which trained the Austrians. Prior to the k.u.k. Sturmtruppen, the Austrians had no tradition of Totenkopf badges. Since Sturmbataillon No. 5 (Rohr) was the premier shock-troop training organization, it's possible that some Germans or Turks were so impressed by the nifty skull badge worn by their instructors that they made a similar badge for themselves. As for your age, I'm 48. The day I choose old postcards over gorgeous Bulgarian women is the day I lie down and pull a dirt blanket up over my head! Edited November 11, 2010 by Thomas W Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robin Lumsden Posted November 11, 2010 Author Share Posted November 11, 2010 Thanks again, Thomas. Very interesting. :cheers: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robin Lumsden Posted November 11, 2010 Author Share Posted November 11, 2010 Another thing for the skulls thread. This type of armband was worn in 1923 by SA Company Nr. 1. The skull was gilded at some point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sergeant 08 Posted November 17, 2010 Share Posted November 17, 2010 (edited) I got this stick pin today! Edited November 17, 2010 by Sergeant 08 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sergeant 08 Posted November 17, 2010 Share Posted November 17, 2010 (edited) I remember a dealer, who sold one or two of those stick pins in past, offered them as early NS sympathy stick pins. We know the skull symbol and the motto "Und Doch!" were used by Freikorps members of the Eiserne Division. The question is, when were the stick pins made? Pre or after 1933? The swastika means not, that it must be made after 1933. And who used that kind of stick pin? Photos show us, that veterans used the symbols on flags during the Weimarer Republik. Edited November 17, 2010 by Sergeant 08 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sergeant 08 Posted November 17, 2010 Share Posted November 17, 2010 Existed an official veterans organization of the Eiserne Division? Was it a membership stick pin for such an organization or was it only a kind commemorative stick pin for Freikorps veterans? Opinions? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robin Lumsden Posted November 17, 2010 Author Share Posted November 17, 2010 I got this stick pin today! My guess is Iron Division Veteran Group. I also have one of these................not easy to find now, but a few years ago Niemann had a box of about 30 of them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robin Lumsden Posted November 17, 2010 Author Share Posted November 17, 2010 Freikorps Caspari carried the Iron Division flag............. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robin Lumsden Posted November 17, 2010 Author Share Posted November 17, 2010 FK Caspari with another flag............. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robin Lumsden Posted November 17, 2010 Author Share Posted November 17, 2010 Flags at a funeral........... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robin Lumsden Posted November 17, 2010 Author Share Posted November 17, 2010 One more.......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sergeant 08 Posted November 17, 2010 Share Posted November 17, 2010 (edited) Btw, what do you think about this photo? Edited November 17, 2010 by Sergeant 08 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robin Lumsden Posted November 18, 2010 Author Share Posted November 18, 2010 Btw, what do you think about this photo? Great photo............never seen that combination of badges before. Always something new to see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naxos Posted November 18, 2010 Share Posted November 18, 2010 (edited) Since the title of this thread (part of, anyway) is: How about this nice little gem? http://www.bogoff.com/pocket/6481.html Edited November 18, 2010 by Naxos Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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