Prussian Pilot Badge

[Chris Liontas]

Hi All!

I just received this badge as part of a group. Badges are outside my realm of comfort, as I am mostly a uniform/helmet guy. This pilots badge looks like it has all the characteristics of a Junker badge.

The badge was vetted by two other collectors, but I would like to get more info and opinions here if possible. This is a subject I know nothing about.

Thanks guys!

[Chris Liontas]

Closeups--- I have tried to add closeups of each detail in natural light

[Chris Liontas]

House

[Chris Liontas]

House

[Chris Liontas]

BAck--looks to be a a repair to the hinge clasp

Edited September 8, 2009 by Chris Liontas

[Ferg1]

Hi,nice looking badge,not a Juncker though .I would say it was from the outlet that marked their badges with a small square symbol on reverse (but not always).Maker is not known at present. Silver two piece ? I would guess it is post war piece (1920's). Ferg1.

[Chris Liontas]

Halmark

(tired of seeing photos yet?? )

[Chris Liontas]

Badge

ok (puts on Armor) What does everyone think?

[Mike K]

A nice original with a crude but probably period catch repair.

Regards

Mike

[Steve K.]

Nice badge!

I originally vetted this piece for the seller.

Kindest Regards,

Steve

[VtwinVince]

Very nice private purchase piece.

[Claudius]

Without looking at it in person, I would have to say its a good piece. :cheers:

[saschaw]

I would say it was from the outlet that marked their badges with a small square symbol on reverse (but not always).Maker is not known at present.

The square marked EKs, very likely by the same maker, are believed to be from the same maker as the "CD 800" crosses. And this "CD" is said to be Carl Dillenius, Pforzheim.

From his EK1 we can conclude that the "CD" mark is found on issue versions while the square amrked crosses are vaultet, private purchased ones. The same might be correct for the aviator badges. There are no "CD" aviator badges know, are they?

[Chris Liontas]

Thanks a ton guys! This is one of the pieces I never thought I would own, let alone have attached to an orignal tunic (photos to follow later today ) I appreciate all the information.

Is there a definitive (for the current information) reference on the makers/badges of the German Air Service for both private and issue pieces. I know the air service badges are heavily faked, and it takes a while to get comfortable with them. I am grabbing all references on WWI Wings I can find, and any information on German (or Austrian for that matter) references would be great!

[Steve K.]

I know Steve Previtera (Winidore Press) is working in this direction. Some of my German aviation badges have already been photographed.

Cheers,

Steve K.

Edited September 11, 2009 by Steve K.

[Scott]

This pilots badge looks like it has all the characteristics of a Junker badge.

Juncker, not Junker. Sorry, it's a pet peve of mine... :cheers:

[Stogieman]

There's a number of these kicking about. They have a distinct pin/hinge assembly that's (thus far) unique to this manufacturer. Both Prussian Pilots and Observers have been found. many bear the 800 silver mark. Some bear that mark plus additional ones elsewhere on the piece, including on little silver plates affixed into the hinge well.

Nice original badge.