Brian Wolfe Posted March 27, 2010 Share Posted March 27, 2010 Hello Everyone, A year or more ago I ventured into Imperial German territory and found that I had been "burned" by a local dealer. Lucky for me he took the material back but as credit only. I ended up using the credit for some genuine British Medals so it was just a learning experience that cost me nothing, except a little embarrassment. Now I am trying to get my "feet wet" agian and hope I have not made the same errors in judgement. This group comes from a different dealer. I've learned my lesson and purchase nothing from the first guy. This trio was sold as WWI Prussian. The War Effort Cross (my name for the sake of description) looks to have been mounted up with the reverse side out, the familiar Commemorative Medal and the Vetran's Association War Service Cross are all in very good condition. What is the feeling of the members regarding this group? The ribbons look good though slightly soiled. I'll post the back of the mount next. Brian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Wolfe Posted March 27, 2010 Author Share Posted March 27, 2010 This is the back of the mount. Thanks again for any haelp you can give me. Regards Brian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted March 27, 2010 Share Posted March 27, 2010 Hi Brian I like it - but I have a bias towards anything with a War Help Cross or a Centenary Medal on it! regards Jas Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Wolfe Posted March 27, 2010 Author Share Posted March 27, 2010 Hi Brian I like it - but I have a bias towards anything with a War Help Cross or a Centenary Medal on it! regards Jas Hi Jason, Thanks, I have a lot to learn about this area of collecting. Regards Brian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeikoGrusdat Posted March 27, 2010 Share Posted March 27, 2010 Äh Jas....... what is a "bias" ??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted March 28, 2010 Share Posted March 28, 2010 Hi Heiko - it means I really like those 2 decorations mounted up on bars! cheers Jas Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeikoGrusdat Posted March 28, 2010 Share Posted March 28, 2010 Ah ok..... now I understand , thank you :beer: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saschaw Posted March 28, 2010 Share Posted March 28, 2010 No problems with the group, and by the way the war effort cross is mounted correctly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Claudius Posted March 30, 2010 Share Posted March 30, 2010 ...and by the way the war effort cross is mounted correctly. True, but it seems to be a a choice of the wearer. I have one bar with it mounted correctly, and another F-P war frack bar that has it reversed. :lol: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ulsterman Posted March 30, 2010 Share Posted March 30, 2010 A perfect little bar! I love it. Worn by some old Prussian codger in the 1920s-1940s. Obviously a veteran and probably in uniform @ 1897-but it wouldn't surprise me if he was some sort of businessman or local official. The Prussian war aid cross was given to all sorts of folks. I really like this one! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Wolfe Posted March 30, 2010 Author Share Posted March 30, 2010 Many thnaks to all of you who have responded. This is a new area for me and I am very nervous about getting "taken to the cleaners", so-to-speak. I purchased a very nice group of four from one of the members here so that one I am very confident is 100% genuine. Howerver, once outside of the GMIC you take a chance of running amok of some very shady characters. Another group of three arrived today that I will be posting for comment. I would greatly appreciate your guidance if you will be so kind to look at it. It's a Franco-Prussian War group (I hope). This new one has me quite worried. Thanks again. Regards Brian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stukapilot Posted April 29, 2010 Share Posted April 29, 2010 Another one which is close to previous. Is it ok? Some questions because the delta between first and the last medals is about 50 years! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stukapilot Posted April 29, 2010 Share Posted April 29, 2010 Backside Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeikoGrusdat Posted April 29, 2010 Share Posted April 29, 2010 No problem with this one too.... Don`t forget , the last cross is no combattant award or something like that - you got it for membership and service in the Vets organization - he could have got it as a 70 year old Ex-warrior... ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ulsterman Posted May 2, 2010 Share Posted May 2, 2010 Indeed! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Wolfe Posted May 2, 2010 Author Share Posted May 2, 2010 Indeed! Hi Ulsterman, Is that an Oldenburg Cross 1st Class the fellow is wearing? I the mail Gods are kind I have one coming for my collection this coming week (I hope). Nice photo by the way. Regards Brian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
speedytop Posted May 2, 2010 Share Posted May 2, 2010 Hi Brian: "Is that an Oldenburg Cross 1st Class the fellow is wearing?" I think, it is the first class of the Prussian War Veterans Organisation. Uwe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeikoGrusdat Posted May 2, 2010 Share Posted May 2, 2010 Yup...... that`s the first class.... nice looking award in white / gold Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Wolfe Posted May 2, 2010 Author Share Posted May 2, 2010 Yup...... that`s the first class.... nice looking award in white / gold So...it is the 1st class Prussian War Veteran's Organization Cross and not the Oldenburg cross? I don't want to be confused about this. Regards Brian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Wolfe Posted May 2, 2010 Author Share Posted May 2, 2010 Hi Brian: "Is that an Oldenburg Cross 1st Class the fellow is wearing?" I think, it is the first class of the Prussian War Veterans Organisation. Uwe It was hard to see in the photo and I was going by the general shape. Upon closer view I can see that there seems to be more printed on the cross than just the "FA" in the centre of the Oldenburg. Thanks Brian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stukapilot Posted May 2, 2010 Share Posted May 2, 2010 It was hard to see in the photo and I was going by the general shape. Upon closer view I can see that there seems to be more printed on the cross than just the "FA" in the centre of the Oldenburg. Thanks Brian Here's the cross. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ulsterman Posted May 3, 2010 Share Posted May 3, 2010 It's the Prussian war vets association cross. This is an Oldenburg Cross: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeikoGrusdat Posted May 3, 2010 Share Posted May 3, 2010 very nice picture.... good to see the shoulderboards from Oldenburg IR91 :beer: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Wolfe Posted May 4, 2010 Author Share Posted May 4, 2010 Many thanks Ulsterman. I really like photos of medals in wear but to be honest I never thought I'd see the 1st Class Oldenburg Cross in wear. I know that sounds like I think I've seen it all but that's not the case. I would imagine these are quite rare especially if compaired to the Prussian Iron Cross. Thanks again Ulsterman, you are a true gentleman and a scholar, and from what I have seen on another post a Fly Fisherman! Regards Brian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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