M Hunter Posted June 30, 2010 Share Posted June 30, 2010 (edited) Gentlemen, As you will see form the pictures there is no Hanseatic Cross ribbons on this one....but sometimes one has to branch out. Ribbons, devices etc are all good and look period. I would like a little help with my analysis of this new ribbon bar...i could be completely on the wrong track. I think he was most likely an Army Officer (which rank i do not know) given the combination (haven't seen many Zahringer Lions on Naval ribbon bars) He did serve in WW2 hence the KVKx but perhaps received it in a "desk-job" capacity? Not sure if this one can be identified given the shortage of Imperial awards...but regardless of that, i think it it a great little ribbon bar. If it could that would be the icing on the cake for me. Combination of awards: Iron Cross 2nd Class War Merit Cross 2nd Class with swords Hohenzollern House Order Baden Orden of Zahringer Lion 2nd Class Honor Cross 1914-1918 Austrian Commemorative Medal 1914-1918 Army Long service eagle gold 25 Years of service Army Long service eagle gold 12 Years of service Hungarian Commemorative Medal 1914-1918 Bulgarian Commemorative Medal 1914-1918 As always i am appreciative of any information given and all comments are welcome. My analysis may be way off. And to those who help never be afraid to let me know if i can ever help them in any way. My best Matt Edited June 30, 2010 by M Hunter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M Hunter Posted June 30, 2010 Author Share Posted June 30, 2010 The reverse. The backing is black. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deruelle Posted June 30, 2010 Share Posted June 30, 2010 Hi Matt, Very nice ribbon bar. Your analyse is correct. This officer finished the WW1 with grade of second or first Lieutenant. He probably served in the Reichsheer (need to read the RL to find it ) During WW2, he served, like you said "in a desk job capacity". He was probably Oberstleutnant or Oberst. On your bar there is only one mistake. It concern the Austrian ribbon which, theoricaly, should be after the long service ribbon. There is no explanation about that choice Christophe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M Hunter Posted June 30, 2010 Author Share Posted June 30, 2010 (edited) Hi Matt, Very nice ribbon bar. Your analyse is correct. This officer finished the WW1 with grade of second or first Lieutenant. He probably served in the Reichsheer (need to read the RL to find it ) During WW2, he served, like you said "in a desk job capacity". He was probably Oberstleutnant or Oberst. On your bar there is only one mistake. It concern the Austrian ribbon which, theoricaly, should be after the long service ribbon. There is no explanation about that choice Christophe Christophe Thank you for the help. I believe the ribbon bar combination to be correct. This bar was put together during the war (has 1939 KVKx) and usually bars constructed after the 1938 Austrian Anschluss had the Austrian awards bumped up a few places. Would this chap appear on the Zahringer Lion roles? Would anyone be able to look? Or is the Imperial combination too meagre to search? Best regards Matt Edited June 30, 2010 by M Hunter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeikoGrusdat Posted June 30, 2010 Share Posted June 30, 2010 Hi Matt.... nice bar indeed but I think the combination of BZL and HOHX without any other help is not enough for a effective search... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deruelle Posted June 30, 2010 Share Posted June 30, 2010 Matt, I have found 6 officers who in RL 1925 has the following combo : EK2, HHO3X, BZ3bX - Hauptmann Laule - Hauptmann von Scheele - Hauptmann Taschke - Hauptmann Henn - Oberleutnant von Gallwitz - Oberleutnant Graf von Sponeck I have no RL after 1932 so I can't help you for awards in WW2 Christophe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul C Posted July 1, 2010 Share Posted July 1, 2010 WWII service: - Hauptmann Laule GL Luft - Hauptmann von Scheele Army GdI - Hauptmann Taschke can't find - Hauptmann Henn can't find - Oberleutnant von Gallwitz Army GL - Oberleutnant Graf von Sponeck Army GL I hope this helps some. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saschaw Posted July 1, 2010 Share Posted July 1, 2010 Nice, but unidentifiable bar. Precedence is right for post-March 1938. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M Hunter Posted July 1, 2010 Author Share Posted July 1, 2010 Nice, but unidentifiable bar. Precedence is right for post-March 1938. But at least Christophe and Paul have narrowed it down ...my thanks to both of these gents. I guess it is down to looking at these chaps portraits to see if the ribbon bars match up. Best wishes to all for contributing, Matt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VtwinVince Posted July 1, 2010 Share Posted July 1, 2010 I also know of Hauptmann Laue, father of an old family friend and adjutant to Eitel-Friedrich von Preussen, of the 1. Garde-Regiment-zu-Fuss, who also had the HOH and BZL combo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M Hunter Posted July 1, 2010 Author Share Posted July 1, 2010 I also know of Hauptmann Laue, father of an old family friend and adjutant to Eitel-Friedrich von Preussen, of the 1. Garde-Regiment-zu-Fuss, who also had the HOH and BZL combo. Hello Vince, Did he serve in the Second World War? Do you know of his other awards for example the KVKx? Thanks Matt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VtwinVince Posted July 2, 2010 Share Posted July 2, 2010 I don't know if he was active in the second war, but I think it's likely, as he was heavily involved with the Stahlhelm during the inter-war years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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