Stogieman Posted January 9, 2006 Share Posted January 9, 2006 why, oh why, oh why do people do this?http://cgi.ebay.com/Imperial-German-WWI-Bl...1QQcmdZViewItemThe eagle's mouths are SHUT! NO,NO, NO, NO!!!! The "Godet" Marked piece has eagles that ARE NOT GODET! NO> NO< NO!!!! There were exactly 3 makers in WW1.WagnerFriedlanderGodetWhy do people insist on speculating as opposed to learning. I'm sorry, but there's no sympathy left in my heart for people who insist on buying BAD, FAKE, WRONG pieces of absolute GOUVNA for $3K and counting.MY GOD PEOPLE!! WHEN WILL THEY LEARN?????????????????? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stogieman Posted January 9, 2006 Author Share Posted January 9, 2006 Reverse of the piece of gouvna: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Gregory Posted January 9, 2006 Share Posted January 9, 2006 That seller starts all his auctions at $9.99 and doesn't claim originality in his descriptions. And he seems to have had a stock of PlMs.Caveat emptor! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Hunter Posted January 9, 2006 Share Posted January 9, 2006 P. T. Barnum knew the truth but, of course, ignorance helps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Darrell Posted January 9, 2006 Share Posted January 9, 2006 (edited) What about the top bidder .... had to retract his bid of $30k when he meant $3k. Bet he is glad he caught his error Look at some other gems he has sold in the past:http://cgi.ebay.ca/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewIt...item=6585808179http://cgi.ebay.ca/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewIt...item=6586047498http://cgi.ebay.ca/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewIt...item=6585848833 Edited January 9, 2006 by Darrell Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Gregory Posted January 10, 2006 Share Posted January 10, 2006 Other "good stuff" includes:A dodgy Anhalt pin-back cross:http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewI...item=6567563171Navy wound badge:http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewI...item=6567573643Colonial elephant badge:http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewI...item=6567560917Imperial pilot's badges:http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewI...item=6567564430http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewI...item=6579374736http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewI...item=6585812327http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewI...item=6585848833MGSs badge:http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewI...item=6568931482Navy pilot's badge:http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewI...item=6567570245Oak leaves to the Knoght's Cross:http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewI...item=65793732971870 EK1:http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewI...item=6585815532Imperial submarine badge - the sew-on version (???):http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewI...item=6585808179Tank destruction strip:http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewI...item=6586047498 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joe campbell Posted January 10, 2006 Share Posted January 10, 2006 in the PLM add, he DOES claim originality.... joe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve K. Posted January 10, 2006 Share Posted January 10, 2006 It seems to be a consistent trend on Ebay: Bad stuff sells stupidly high while alot of real stuff sells low ( sells low only if you know where to look and are willing to let it go when it reaches market value....unless you REALLY want it!) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Les Posted January 10, 2006 Share Posted January 10, 2006 US $3,830.00 and it's going to a new Canadian owner who obviously doesn't read posts from this or a couple of other Forums....Les Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Darrell Posted January 10, 2006 Share Posted January 10, 2006 US $3,830.00 and it's going to a new Canadian owner who obviously doesn't read posts from this or a couple of other Forums....LesCanadian? Says his location is the United States ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Les Posted January 10, 2006 Share Posted January 10, 2006 Canadian? Says his location is the United States ... Ok...my screwup. The third highest bidder that was lead the pack over the $3000 amount is Canadian. The other two that beat him out are Americans.... (I won't comment on how gullible some of the people living in the same country I'm in are....) java script:emoticon('', 'smid_19')Les Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stogieman Posted January 10, 2006 Author Share Posted January 10, 2006 Maybe he just wants to put it with this BAD (aka FAKE) Bavarian Pilot Badge, Rare Variation, that he purchased about a month back........... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stogieman Posted January 10, 2006 Author Share Posted January 10, 2006 Reverse of the rare variation FAKE: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stogieman Posted January 10, 2006 Author Share Posted January 10, 2006 Please note that I have removed Rothe as a WW1 maker. While convential wisdom is that he might have made a few "private purchase" pieces, he was NOT a consistent manufacturer of the award and should be excluded from the list. Thanks to medalnet! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deruelle Posted January 14, 2006 Share Posted January 14, 2006 Hi, Who can buy such fake for the price like that I don't understand. I have a copy of the Plm that my wife has bought for me 8 years ago for 400 francs fran?ais (80$). I love it because my wife makes me this gift. If people has got enough money to buy fake medals, they do what they want with their money. They can cry when they know the true.Christophe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joe campbell Posted January 14, 2006 Share Posted January 14, 2006 christophe-she gave you a beautiful gift!my son gave me a repro spanienkreuzwhich he paid $9.00 for at the flea market inlondon.it is my favorite piece!joe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Brian von Etzel Posted January 14, 2006 Share Posted January 14, 2006 Rick, I have to disagree, the PlM you show from eBay auction is a known postwar wearer's copy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Brian von Etzel Posted January 14, 2006 Share Posted January 14, 2006 ...family member purchased one of these, postwar, I have proof, but I cannot reveal his name. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Brian von Etzel Posted January 14, 2006 Share Posted January 14, 2006 Some of you who have studied history will recognize who this is if I give a few obscure clues, but I am unable at this time to put his name out in public, I hope you understand. Rick L. knows who this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Brian von Etzel Posted January 14, 2006 Share Posted January 14, 2006 Andreas, you can use this on your site for proof of yet another original postwar PlM but please do not reveal the name.Here he is, now you know, this PlM is a genuine postwar wearer's piece. Worth every penny of 4 or 5 thousand euros. Rick, as he is a family member, still living, please do not reveal his name. I don't want collectors stalking him. He will not sell. I am sure however, his widow will definitely sell someday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Brian von Etzel Posted January 14, 2006 Share Posted January 14, 2006 He has a very secure security system. This is one collector who doesn't need a bank safety deposit box like most of us.Meet "Cold Water" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Brian von Etzel Posted January 14, 2006 Share Posted January 14, 2006 Being wealthy he has a fleet of cars in addition to a beautiful collection. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Brian von Etzel Posted January 14, 2006 Share Posted January 14, 2006 Final clue, here's the ad he put in the paper to meet my aunt.Follow the instructions, I think there were very similar instructions in the original eBay ad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ramblinfarms Posted January 14, 2006 Share Posted January 14, 2006 Obviously from a family of noble birth, taste and breeding. I hear they made special E Bay Wearer Copies of the PLMs and HHO with Crown and Swords for the Decendants of the original award recipients.In order of presidence, they are placed right behind the Dale Ernhardt "Intimidator" Memorial Die Struck Medal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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