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    Posted

    The cross on the right is definitely 2nd Class. You can just make out the ribbon loop.

    I'm not sure about the medals - ?Baden?

    Regards

    Mike

    Posted

    The cross on the right is definitely 2nd Class. You can just make out the ribbon loop.

    I'm not sure about the medals - ?Baden?

    Regards

    Mike

    Here's a larger view...

    Posted (edited)

    Yes it is a second class, but the manner of wear (with the crossed ribbons) indicated at on time (in lieu of a proper EKI) an Iron Cross first class.

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    Edited by Naxos
    Posted

    Yes it is a second class, but the manner of wear (with the crossed ribbons) indicated at on time (in lieu of a proper EKI) an Iron Cross first class.

    Can you clarify this? Do you mean the men were probably awarded the EKI but were given the EKII for the photo?

    Posted (edited)

    Can you clarify this? Do you mean the men were probably awarded the EKI but were given the EKII for the photo?

    No, the first two NCOs are wearing an Iron Cross second class on a proper ribbon bar with a Baden Merit medal.

    The third man, the Unteroffizier, he is wearing his Iron Cross second class on a crossed ribbon which could (but not have to) indicate that he was awarded both Iron Crosses.

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    Edited by Naxos
    Posted

    No, the first two NCOs are wearing an Iron Cross second class on a proper ribbon bar with a Baden Merit medal.

    The third man, the Unteroffizier, he is wearing his Iron Cross second class on a crossed ribbon which could but not have to indicate that he was awarded both Iron Crosses.

    Thanks. I understand now.

    Posted (edited)

    I thin the guy on the right did not (yet) have his EK2 mounted, and just bunched the long issue ribbon up and pinned it on.

    Most likely

    Edited by Naxos
    Posted

    Just to illustrate, a ribbon made Iron Cross first class from 1813

    well known arrangement - and rare!! - for the 1813 EK 1,

    but i've not seen this for representation of EK 1 of

    later issues.

    joe

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