Chris Boonzaier Posted April 21, 2011 Posted April 21, 2011 Was really happy to get this... The cover and Picklehaube of a Reserve Officer in the Grenadier regt 101. As it is one of the 2 Regts my wifes great grandfather served in as a Lt. d. Res... I was happy to get it :-)))) Here is a question... On the 15th of August 1914 it was ordered to change the numbers to Green... but not having Harry potter in the Ranks and no "Changeoh!" spell in their pocket... and seeing that the regiments were doing record marches every day.... how long was it before these orders were implemented? I can quite see regiments going into 1915 and still not having green numbers. The cover here has hooks, but is an officers one, it is what I assume to be a scarce variation without the spike part seperately on with strips of cloth...
dond Posted April 21, 2011 Posted April 21, 2011 Very nice. I am amazed at how small most of these are.
Brian Wolfe Posted April 21, 2011 Posted April 21, 2011 That's a great find Chris, congratulations. Regards Brian
Chip Posted April 21, 2011 Posted April 21, 2011 Chris, That is an unusual pattern of Überzug. There is another one shown on Joe Robinson's website in the article on field covers. Chip
Chris Boonzaier Posted April 22, 2011 Author Posted April 22, 2011 Chris, That is an unusual pattern of Überzug. There is another one shown on Joe Robinson's website in the article on field covers. Chip Indeed... for some reason it reminds me of a KKK hood.... Do you have any idea how long into the war units had red numbers? I imagine with the Battle of the frontiers, race to the sea etc. few units had time to stop and chance numbers... I wonder of some units turned their covers inside out to hide the red. For the one above... I tend to think it is private purchase, inspite of the hooks... Best Chris
Chris Boonzaier Posted April 22, 2011 Author Posted April 22, 2011 Googling the regiment, the 3 helmets I found to the 101 all had a pole on top with what looks like black horse hair hanging down... and idea of what that could be? Thanks Chris
Chip Posted April 23, 2011 Posted April 23, 2011 (edited) Chris, I assume you are speaking of the Trichter and Haarbusch on the Pickelhaube? This was a parade accessory for the helmet of this regiment. Regarding the red numbers, I assume that they were just removed when the orders filtered down. My example has small holes, which when held up to the light show it had an "R" with a unit number beneath. I also have a Tschapka cover that has had a #3 removed. Chip Edited April 23, 2011 by Chip
joerookery Posted April 23, 2011 Posted April 23, 2011 I wonder of some units turned their covers inside out to hide the red. The timing is an interesting subject.• I think Chip is right. Mostly they were just removed. However there were some anomalies that presented problems. For those helmets that had painted numbers as opposed to a cloth numbers one of the options was the patch! this technique was used several times I am not sure how/when it was used in all cases. Then of course there was the inside out treatment. But again this was done in this picture later in the war. Here is the cover that Chip had mentioned. http://www.pickelhauben.net/articles/Uberzug.html Interesting topic!
joerookery Posted April 23, 2011 Posted April 23, 2011 The cover here has hooks, but is an officers one, I am not convinced that this cover is private purchase. I have a series of pictures of this Regiment. ps107 by joerookery, on Flickr ps791 by joerookery, on Flickr
Chris Boonzaier Posted April 23, 2011 Author Posted April 23, 2011 Hi Joe, nice! I just saw the G-Grandfather was only in the 101 in 1918 so i doubt he ever wore anything like this. Still... I must admit.. having been rather jaded over the last few years this haube is one of the small things that really excites me.. :-)
Chris Boonzaier Posted May 18, 2011 Author Posted May 18, 2011 Here are some guys from 101... is it my imaginagion or do they have covers like mine?
Chris Liontas Posted May 18, 2011 Posted May 18, 2011 very nice helmet and cover Chris! Looks in great overall shape too! A very nice find!
Chris Boonzaier Posted September 30, 2012 Author Posted September 30, 2012 Hi, I just read an interesting description to a Saxon Helmet on Ebay... it was an officers one and the seller said it must be to the 101st Grenadier regiment as it was the only one with "flat scales" on the chin strap and a Haarbusch... (Ergo screw off spike?) Is that true? Best Chris
ccj Posted February 17, 2013 Posted February 17, 2013 I haven't seen the answer but it's a good question.
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