g1usxs Posted February 9, 2012 Posted February 9, 2012 Very nice Markus. Do you know what year was the portrait painted?
Markus Posted February 9, 2012 Posted February 9, 2012 Hi Babar, Unsure of date painting was made. Time frame would most likely be 1850 to 1865 era. Pulled from Qatar portraits book by Julian Raby.
Markus Posted February 11, 2012 Posted February 11, 2012 This is a maker of the Lion and Sun you do not see too often, Chobillon. This French firm was established sometime before 1895. Other order medals they made include: the Dannebrog star, Madagascar orders, French Legion of Honor Order and some Venezuelan orders.
Markus Posted February 11, 2012 Posted February 11, 2012 (edited) The back of the order is with the maker's name plate. The address listed is 16 Rue Croix de Petits Champs, an address that was first recorded in 1896. By 1912 Chobillon moved to 189 Galerie de Valois in the Palais Royal, thus making the manufacturing of this medal 1896-1911 time frame. Edited February 11, 2012 by Markus
Markus Posted February 11, 2012 Posted February 11, 2012 This is a Kretly made 2nd class breast star made between 1856-1872. Sold in a French auction.
Markus Posted February 17, 2012 Posted February 17, 2012 (edited) I was curious as to what a genuine diamond and emerald Lion and Sun medal would sell for since the rhinestone Lion and Suns demand such a hefty fee. Here is one that sold in Morton & Eden's #47 Auction. 336 *Persia, Order of the Lion and the Sun, Civil Division, diamond-set Grand Cross breast star, of European (probably French) manufacture, in gold and silver, with enamelled central lion and sun motif, the three circles around and rays all set with diamonds of varying sizes, eight angles between the rays each set with five emeralds; the reverse centre engraved in serif capitals Sir Alfred Newton. Bart. 1900, 96.4mm, with detachable centre, extremely fine and very rare £7,000-9,000 It hammered at 6,500 Pounds or U.S. $10,195 in current exchange rate. Edited February 17, 2012 by Markus
JapanX Posted February 17, 2012 Posted February 17, 2012 Sweet price for 100+ "diamonds of varying sizes" To say nothing about 40 emeralds!
Markus Posted February 20, 2012 Posted February 20, 2012 These are the Winkler Auktionen House Lion and Sun breast stars with incredible beauty. I am very surprised that these went unsold at auction. https://www.winkler-auktion.de/auktionen/auktion2/Nachlass_eines_hohen_persischen_osmanischen_Offiziers/Persien_Sonnen_und_Loewen_Orden_2.htm This is a 1st class pre-1870 breast star for military, with no maker marks, screw type fastener back.
Markus Posted February 20, 2012 Posted February 20, 2012 These are the Winkler Auktionen House Lion and Sun breast stars with incredible beauty. I am very surprised that these went unsold at auction. https://www.winkler-auktion.de/auktionen/auktion2/Nachlass_eines_hohen_persischen_osmanischen_Offiziers/Persien_Sonnen_und_Loewen_Orden_2.htm This is a 1st class pre-1870 breast star for military, with no maker marks, screw type fastener back. Close up of medallion. Based on the style of enamel painting I would say this is Persian made.
JapanX Posted February 20, 2012 Posted February 20, 2012 I see you finally figure out how to pitch these pictures!
Markus Posted February 20, 2012 Posted February 20, 2012 Another one of the Winkler auction house breast stars, a 1st class military class pre-1870 breast star. No maker marks. https://www.winkler-auktion.de/auktionen/auktion2/Nachlass_eines_hohen_persischen_osmanischen_Offiziers/Persien_Sonnen_und_Loewen_Orden_3.html
Markus Posted February 20, 2012 Posted February 20, 2012 Another one of the Winkler auction house breast stars, a 1st class military class pre-1870 breast star. No maker marks. Close up of the medallion. A real beauty! https://www.winkler-...en_Orden_3.html
Markus Posted February 20, 2012 Posted February 20, 2012 Another one of the Winkler auction house breast stars, a 1st class military class pre-1870 breast star. Kretly maker mark on back. https://www.winkler-auktion.de/auktionen/auktion2/Nachlass_eines_hohen_persischen_osmanischen_Offiziers/Persien_Sonnen_und_Loewen_Orden_4.html
Markus Posted February 20, 2012 Posted February 20, 2012 Another one of the Winkler auction house breast stars, a 1st class military class pre-1870 breast star. Kretly maker mark on back. Close up of the medallion. https://www.winkler-...en_Orden_4.html
Markus Posted February 20, 2012 Posted February 20, 2012 (edited) Winkler Auction house. The recipient of these breast stars. Photo taken in 1880. https://www.winkler-...ffiziers_1.html Edited February 20, 2012 by Markus
Markus Posted February 20, 2012 Posted February 20, 2012 Winkler Auction house 2nd class breast star with stars in between rays dating the era from 1856-1872.
Markus Posted February 20, 2012 Posted February 20, 2012 Winkler Auction house 2nd class breast star with stars in between rays dating the era from 1856-1872. Close up of the medallion.
JapanX Posted February 20, 2012 Posted February 20, 2012 Well if this photo is indeed photo of recipient of these stars (actually I think we have both stars that are visible in this photo - star on the right is from post #209 and star from the left is from post #214), then NON-PERSIANS WERE AWARDED WITH STANDING LION VERSION OF THE ORDER TOO! At least back in 1880. What we have here in one unstable order Maybe it's time to remember Sir John Wright words? "...As the years went by, variations appeared in the design of the lion and the sun emblem... The lion couchant sometimes stands; sometimes he faces sideways both left and right, sometimes he is full-faced; sometimes his tail is down, sometime up; he also appears flourishing with a sword in his right paw..." Thanks for finding and posting this photo mate! Cheers, Nick
JapanX Posted February 20, 2012 Posted February 20, 2012 Not to mention the fact that one recipient had two versions (lying and standing) on his broad chest at the same time!!!
Markus Posted February 20, 2012 Posted February 20, 2012 It looks like this was the recipient of the Kretly made 1st class breast star.
Markus Posted February 20, 2012 Posted February 20, 2012 Well if this photo is indeed photo of recipient of these stars (actually I think we have both stars that are visible in this photo - star on the right is from post #209 and star from the left is from post #214), then NON-PERSIANS WERE AWARDED WITH STANDING LION VERSION OF THE ORDER TOO! At least back in 1880. What we have here in one unstable order Maybe it's time to remember Sir John Wright words? "...As the years went by, variations appeared in the design of the lion and the sun emblem... The lion couchant sometimes stands; sometimes he faces sideways both left and right, sometimes he is full-faced; sometimes his tail is down, sometime up; he also appears flourishing with a sword in his right paw..." Thanks for finding and posting this photo mate! Cheers, Nick You are so right about it being the wild wild east and everything went on! LOL! Markus
JapanX Posted February 20, 2012 Posted February 20, 2012 Yep, I agree. Order from post #211 certainly looks like it could fall from this chest Another great photo! Thanks mate!
Markus Posted February 20, 2012 Posted February 20, 2012 Winkler auction house commander badge. This one appears to have been in a set. https://www.winkler-auktion.de/auktionen/auktion2/Nachlass_eines_hohen_persischen_osmanischen_Offiziers/Persien_Sonnen_und_Loewen_Orden_5.html
Markus Posted February 20, 2012 Posted February 20, 2012 Winkler auction house commander badge. This one appears to have been in a set. Close up of the commander badge. We have seen this style of medallion before. https://www.winkler-...en_Orden_5.html
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