Mongolia Lieutenant General Jambyn JAMYAN (1916-2007)

[Bob]

Lt. General Jamyan and Soviet citizens talking to Partisan Togtokh in his flat

[Bob]

Some additional, unfortunately undocumented, badges came my way which - from reliable source - also belonged to Jamyan and are an indication of the time he spent in Europe. Also a reminder for me to dig up the stack of documents which I had not reviewed (or posted) in great detail. They may fit to some of these:

1) Mongolian Honorary Badge of the People's Control and Inspection Committee of the MPR. Serial number 308

2) Hungarian Civil Defense 30 Year anniversary Badge

3) Hungarian Civil Defense Badge (beautiful tiny badge with machine gun on it)

4) Bulgarian Badge of the People's Control of the Socialist Bulgaria

5) Bulgarian Badge of the International Children's Assembly held in Sofia in 1979. Silver made, with peace sign on it

6) Bulgarian Honorary Badge of Central Committee for Fighting Fascism and Capitalism (1923-1944) with red star

7) Bulgarian Honorary Badge of Central Committee for Fighting Fascism and Capitalism (1923-1944) without red star

[Bob]

Received some additional documents belonging to Jamyan (without the awards, for some, for now...):

Mongolian:

- Medal of 60 Years to Armed Forces of the MPR

- Medal for Victory over Japan

- Badge of the Excellent Border Guard nr 843

- Honorary Badge of the Mongolian Revolutionary and War Veteran's Committee (Jamyan headed this committee for several years)

- Honorary Badge of the Mongolian Defense Auxiliary Society

- Badge of the 50th anniversary of Mongolian Prosecutor's Organisation (green cover and inside scan shown as well)

Bulgarian:

- Medal of 40th anniversary of Socialist Bulgaria

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[Bob]

And again, more badges most likely from Jamyan:

1) Labor Medal of Socialist Vietnam. Serial numbered 01213

2) Medal of 1500 Years to Bulgaria.

3) The Civil Defense Medal of Hungary (this is the second time this came in my possession, first time round it was in error as another badge belonged to the document I had for Jamyan)

4) Centenary Medal of Zhukov.

5) The badge of 30 Years to Socialist Bulgaria.

6) Honorary badge of the Mongolian Peace and Friendship committee.

7) The badge of 60th anniversary of Mongolian People's Court (for which I have the document)

Possibly more to come I hope...

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[Bob]

An original photo of Jamyan (taken in 1980s) heading a meeting, just added to my collection. The photo also depicts Hero of MPR Gongor, a Soviet Marshal (or Army General) and a Soviet Colonel General (both HSU). Second to Jamyans right is also wearing a SB and Mongolian Red Banner order.

[Bob]

More Jamyan goodies arrive:)

1) Gold Medal for Service to the Motherland of Socialist Hungary

2) Medal of Organisation of International Radio and Television (OIRT) - with blue ribbon - see link to wikipedia below, rather interesting!

http://en.wikipedia....on_Organisation

3) Honorary Badge of the Soviet Civil Defense (Jamyan's wearing this on one of the above pics, I may have the document somewhere else)

4) Badge of the 60th anniversary of Mongolian Trade Sector

5) Badge of the 65th anniversary of Mongolian People's Army

6) Badge of the Veteran of Revolutionary Struggle

7) Small Hungarian pin

Also able to match two of Jamyans badges with doc's.

Slowly but surely this is becoming a very large and increasingly (although still far from) complete group!

[Vatjan]

Great stuff, Bob.

Jan

[Bob]

And again more from Jamyan - for a couple of these I have the documents. It's from a reliable source so am pretty confident that these all belong to Jamyan.

Included here are - among others:

- Badge of the 50th anniversary of Mongolian Prosecutor's Organisation (I have the document for this); it's the bottom left award

- Medal of Combat Brotherhood of East Germany (I recall being offered the document for this when I originally bought the "core" of the group but regretfully it was at an insane price so I did not buy it... sad to see that medals/doc's are being split up)

- Socialist Bulgaria Centenary Medal of Georgi Dimitrov

Can somebody help me: bottom row, second from left - Master of...?

Bottom right (with 50 on it) might have by accident gotten caught up in this group and not belong to Jamyan - have to check.

Really need to get the entire set with documents out to start matching and getting complete overview.

Fingers crossed for potentially getting some of his documented higher end Mongolian awards in the coming months.

[Bob]

Some new Jamyan items arrived (and there's more to come, incl. something interesting from DPRK):

1) Medal "Glory to the Virgin Land Cultivators" (document was already in my posession)

2) 60 Year to Mongolian State Security Badge with the VIP doc

3) Assorted other medals/badges

[Bob]

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Let's see what we have...

Red leather covered doc for a Mongolian badge for the Best employee of the MPR Agricultural sector.

Then a brown DPRK doc... let's see what's inside!

[Bob]

And here the interior of the DPRK doc... it is a document awarded to Jamyan and there is a brief handwritten note in Mongolian on the first page of the booklet. It is the note written by the same person (most probably Jamyan himself) that can be observed on the other foreign award docs. The Mongolian note states "Document for the Order of the National Flag 1st Class of DPRK". Yes, a second booklet for the same award - and all the numbers, dates match!

My suspicion is that this booklet may be the original, that Jamyan lost it, had a new one re-issued (with pic) and then found this one again. But that is just a theory.

That's all for now, still hoping for more to come my away!

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[JapanX]

Can somebody help me: bottom row, second from left - Master of...?

Hi Bob

I believe it is TЭPГYYH - head, first, main, best...

So "best master" badge.

Nice group and photos by the way!

Thanks for sharing!

Cheers,

Nick

[Bob]

A Mongolian forum friend noticed Jamyan in a youtube video!

It is a documentary on a former Mongolian Ambassador to DPRK. Jamyan is among the Mongolian delegates who participated in the 13th World Youth Festival taking place in DRPK in 1988. I managed to find Jamyan at 12:35 as the heads of the Mongolian delegation are getting off the plane and Jamyan is in the background in his uniform. He should be somewhere else in the video as well, as the heads of the delegation walk to a Mongolian camp.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MHz5_2wTbsM

Just thought I'd share - all little bits make the Jamyan story richer and richer:)

[avsaribar]

Dear Bob ,

Thank you very much for sharing them with us. Perfect pictures , very nice and rare documents.

We are very lucky that we have a member like you in GMIC.

Best Wishes from Istanbul ,

Avsar

[Bob]

2 polar stars: 1172 awarded in 1935 (as per the doc in my possession) and 1393 (I suspect this is the one for which I have booklet which indicates a polar star being awarded in 1951 but not giving the number). Jamyan was also awarded a third polar star (nr 17340, in 1975) but I do not have this one. The screw plate of the 1393 has the imprint of a soviet medal (an oddity which is discussed in some detail on GMIC)

4 red banner of labor valor all corresponding with entries in booklets in my possession: 1915 awarded in 1961, 4206 awarded in 1971, 4354 awarded in 1974 and 5285 awarded in 1986. Undoubtedly some of which for length of service. Interesting to note is that the red banner nr 1915 which is the screwback ALSO has a screwplate with imprint of a soviet medal.

So… Jamyan was awarded with more orders than can be seen on the main pic I posted early in this thread.

Imagine translating it to Soviet references: a general awarded a Hero of Labor, who is also a labor order cavalier + a fourth labor order, and then has for arguments sake 3 red banner orders (i.e. polar stars). The volume of awards Jamyan has received is impressive!

I just keep hoping that one day I’ll manage to get one (or more) of the three SB’s he was awarded! Yes, in Soviet terms he also received 3 orders of Lenin!

[Bob]

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[Bob]

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[Bob]

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Here we have some kind of heavy brass commemorative display to put on a general's desk or cupboard.

There is an engraved plate attached to it:

"The command of the South Military Unit is showing deep respect and honor to the Mongolian friends. May 19, 1977. Budapest city."

Unfortunately not named to Jamyan, but from a reliable source and an indication of the incredible international network Jamyan must have had (before facebook / linkedin!)

[Bob]

[Bob]

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3 passports: one civil passport from 1987, an official one from 1992 (short Uighur script revival?) and an official one from 2005. Interesting as it contains pictures of Jamyan (of course) and visas. Even long after he was retired and Mongolia had become a democracy, he was still travelling to Vietnam, North Korea, China, etc. – continuing to maintain good relations and on official government business?

Some detail pics of his earliest passport (at least, earliest in my collection)

More to come (although i guess detailed award doc scans really is more for the hard core Mongolia collectors).

Also possibly more to share in a few weeks... branching further and further out beyond just orders/medals to get a very complete and rich "picture" of this important General.

[Bob]

[Bob]

A whole stack of documents – will highlight a few as it is a pain to photograph them all.

Roughly, the list is as follows (not sure if this is entirely correct):

1. Honored meritorious person certificate of the Mongolian People’s Revolutionary Party

2. Certificate of -----//-----------------badge

3.--------//-------------- meritorious person certificate

4. Certificate of honored pioneer

5. Certificate of honored badge of 70th anniversary for border protection authority

6. Certificate of honored badge of Mongolian organizations of peace and friendship

7. Certificate of honored badge of 60th anniversary of People’s Education

8. Strict declaration of association for assisting defense of People’s Republic of Mongolia

9. Certificate of honored warrior

10. Certificate of Mongolian Red Cross

11. Certificate of honored badge of state civil defense

12. Certificate of Parliament group

13. Certificate of honored badge of the Association for assisting the state defense

14 Certificate of badge of United Nations

15. Certificate of letter of remembrance and badge

16. Strict declaration of membership of Mongolian Trade Unions

17. -----//-----------------------------------

18. Certificate of deputy of Great Khural

19. Certificate of honored pioneer

Some interesting ones will get some pics in later posts.

[Bob]

First, a “diploma” in French for what appears to be some kind of peace medal and awarded by the “conseil mondial de la paix”. It is a commemorative medal (I only have the document) for the 30th anniversary of this organization in 1980.

"The World Peace Council (WPC) is an international organization that advocates universal disarmament, sovereignty and independence and peaceful co-existence, and campaigns against imperialism, weapons of mass destruction and all forms of discrimination. It was founded in 1950, emerging from the policy of the Communist Party of the Soviet Union to promote peace campaigns around the world in order to oppose "warmongering" by the USA. Its first president was the eminent physicist Frédéric Joliot-Curie. It was based in Helsinki from 1968 to 1999 and its headquarters are now in Greece."

Good old fashioned cold war rhetoric on wikipedia:D

http://en.wikipedia....d_Peace_Council

[Bob]

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Second, a 1984 one with a plastic cover added to it – so probably important enough that it needed to be kept safe against wear and tear? On the reverse is a note included in Mongolian – maybe give some more clues?

[Bob]

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Second, a 1984 one with a plastic cover added to it – so probably important enough that it needed to be kept safe against wear and tear? On the reverse is a note included in Mongolian – maybe give some more clues?