Deruelle Posted July 21, 2011 Share Posted July 21, 2011 Hi everybody, I have bought this very nice photo of a Saxon officer (sorry again one). I have found his name and I want to know if someone can find the name (it's not so easy as it seems). Good luck Christophe PS : as soon as I have the original photo in my hands I will post it here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaba1914 Posted July 21, 2011 Share Posted July 21, 2011 (edited) I would say Hptm Albert von Malortie from FFA 63 and later leader of FA A 284 Born 20.04.1887 in Dresden. Picture taken before he got the HOH. Great picture. If you want to leave i take it. Maybe if you buy my group :-) Regards Alex Edited July 21, 2011 by jaba1914 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deruelle Posted July 21, 2011 Author Share Posted July 21, 2011 Hi Alex, It's not Malortie, he has neither received the Brunswick merit medal 2nd cl northe Austrian Military Merit cross 3rd class with war decoration. I said it's not easy Christophe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VtwinVince Posted July 21, 2011 Share Posted July 21, 2011 Great picture, Christophe. If it stumped Alex, I'm not even going to try. :rolleyes: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deruelle Posted July 22, 2011 Author Share Posted July 22, 2011 Ok guys here is a small clue : he received the Brunswick medal 2nd class on : 19 July 1915. Just for information, Neal O'Connor hadn't find the date in this book, so it can't help you ! Christophe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deruelle Posted July 22, 2011 Author Share Posted July 22, 2011 Nobody ? Tonight I will give you the last clue before the name. I hope that someone will find him Christophe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deruelle Posted July 23, 2011 Author Share Posted July 23, 2011 Hi everybody, the last clue He received the Saxe Ernestine knight cross 2nd class with X on 18 July 1917. I hope that with this clue someone will find him. Good luck Christophe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deruelle Posted July 24, 2011 Author Share Posted July 24, 2011 Hi everybody, here is the name : Leutnant Achatz Graf von der Schulenburg Christophe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaba1914 Posted July 24, 2011 Share Posted July 24, 2011 I thought on fourth place it is the Wurttemberg FO1X but he doesn't got this award. I can't found the award of Saxe Ernestine knight cross 2nd class with X on 18 July 1917. Could you give us more infos. Regards Alex Hi everybody, here is the name : Leutnant Achatz Graf von der Schulenburg Christophe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deruelle Posted July 24, 2011 Author Share Posted July 24, 2011 Hi Alex, For me the Wurttemberg medla is the second class not the first, I can't see enameled. The EH3bX has been awarded on 9 July 1917. He was member of the Reichswehr, but when you look at his medals, there is no Wurttemberg medal and no Observer badge. This is the only combo possible. Neal O'Connor had not find the date for the Schulenburg's Brunswick medal, and it was finally in the historical regiment unit. Christophe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saschaw Posted July 24, 2011 Share Posted July 24, 2011 (edited) Württemberg is a knights cross 1st class, due to the rays(?) between the cross arms. Edited July 24, 2011 by saschaw Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaba1914 Posted July 24, 2011 Share Posted July 24, 2011 I have my doubt about this guy. I also think he wear the FO1X. I have all awards of SEHO (all classes) and there is no award of SEHO2X to Graf von der Schulenburg on this date. I still think it is Albert von Malortie Regards Alex Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deruelle Posted July 24, 2011 Author Share Posted July 24, 2011 (edited) Hi Alex, For info, here is the date of the EH3bX for von der Schulenburg, on page 68 from the Rick, Daniel's book for : Verleihungen von militärischen Orden und Ehrenzeichen der Ernstinischen Herzogtümer Sachsen Altenburg, Sachsen Coburg Gotha und Sachsen Meiningenim 1914-1918. I have writen the date for another man, sorry, here is the good date. Malortie has never received the BrK2, so it can't be him and I'm not sure he received the ÖM3K too. When I will receive the photo I will take good close up, if possible, of the medal bar. Christophe Edited July 24, 2011 by Deruelle Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaba1914 Posted July 26, 2011 Share Posted July 26, 2011 This guy was in HR 18. Are you sure that this entry is for the SEHO2X. Looks like this is not a flyer or observer. Regards Alex Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deruelle Posted July 27, 2011 Author Share Posted July 27, 2011 Hi, From the vol. 3 of Aviation awards of the Imperial Germany, Kingdom of Saxe by Neal O'Connor the citationof vond er Schulenburg. This officer has received it during his time in aviation unit as an obserer. Concerning the date in the Daniel/Rick's book, sometimes mistakes have been made and in the citation here for the St Henry they quote the aviation unit and we were in 1916 and for the EH3bX the citation quotes his first unit, the HR 18. Christophe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deruelle Posted July 27, 2011 Author Share Posted July 27, 2011 I have taken from the O'Connor's book another citation from Althaus where mistake is again present. I have a very good feeling with von der Schulenburg for the photo, but as soon as I have not find another photo of him with different face, I continue to think it's my man, without offense to everyone of course. Christophe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deruelle Posted July 31, 2011 Author Share Posted July 31, 2011 Hi everybody, Yesterday I have received the photo in question. I've take several photos to see clearly shoulderboards etc. This is well a captain ( I have found two stars on shoulderboards). Sascha has definitively very good eyes, indeed the Wurttemberg Friedrich Order is well a first class with swords. So our man can't be von Schulenburg. So Alex has probably right too about Malortie. The good point is we have found two medals to add to Malortie : Brunswick and Austrian medals. Here is the photo. Christophe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deruelle Posted July 31, 2011 Author Share Posted July 31, 2011 The shoulderboards Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deruelle Posted July 31, 2011 Author Share Posted July 31, 2011 The Friedrich knight cross 1st class with swords Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deruelle Posted July 31, 2011 Author Share Posted July 31, 2011 The last question, does someone have more informations about Hauptmann Malortie please ? Thanks a lot Christophe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaba1914 Posted July 31, 2011 Share Posted July 31, 2011 Hptm Albert von Malortie born 20.04.1887 at Dresden pre war service on Jäger Battailon Nr. 12, Promotion to Lt on 20.04.1906 Promotion to Olt on 20.08.1915 Service as observer on FFA 63 on the easter front. FFA 63 was part of the Beskiden-Korps lead by Hptm Pueschel. 1917 he was leader of FA A 284. Thats all i have. Some missing information Regards Alex Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deruelle Posted July 31, 2011 Author Share Posted July 31, 2011 Thanks Alex for the info. he received the HHO3X on 19 october 1918. Christophe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Söderbaum Posted July 31, 2011 Share Posted July 31, 2011 Hi One source gives von Malortie promoted Hptm on 270115, which might be patent date... Those promoted Lt in 1906 he "ought to" have been promoted Oblt in the autumn of 1914.. Anyway fast promotion from Oblt to Hptm. Gunnar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaba1914 Posted October 13, 2013 Share Posted October 13, 2013 I found this old thread and i would like to show this nice case with a miniature of a pilot badge on the top and a engraved signature of Hptm Albert von Malortie. This was a gift from Malortie to LtdR Heinrich Kessler pilot and OzbV at FA A 284. Kessler was a long time member of FFA 58 / FA A 284 from 1916 to 1918. Regards Alex Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Claudius Posted October 16, 2013 Share Posted October 16, 2013 I found this old thread and i would like to show this nice case with a miniature of a pilot badge on the top and a engraved signature of Hptm Albert von Malortie. This was a gift from Malortie to LtdR Heinrich Kessler pilot and OzbV at FA A 284. Kessler was a long time member of FFA 58 / FA A 284 from 1916 to 1918. Dose (1).JPG Dose (2).JPG Regards Alex Alex; What a great silver case! The engraving is so beautiful. This really goes well with the rest of the Kessler group. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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