Riley1965 Posted June 30, 2006 Posted June 30, 2006 Ed,Would you please move this post to the proper thread?Thank You,Doc
Ed_Haynes Posted June 30, 2006 Posted June 30, 2006 Ed, let me know if you need help merging....Would be happy to do so -- and would have done so already -- but I do not have moderator rights over here.
Riley1965 Posted June 30, 2006 Posted June 30, 2006 Ed,Thanks for trying!! How's the trip going? Are you still roaming the world or are you back home? I'd love to hear about your trip!!!Regards,Doc
Vatjan Posted August 10, 2006 Posted August 10, 2006 Well, we've seen a lot Type 1's, but no B02 sofar
Ed_Haynes Posted August 29, 2006 Posted August 29, 2006 Well . . . it ought to exist?Deputy of the State Higher Assembly (1924-44)Silver. Mintmark "МД". Number 63.Don't know . . .
GlennC Posted August 29, 2006 Author Posted August 29, 2006 I have seen similar badge before, I don't like it at all, if you will compare quality of lower assembly badge you will see big difference. It doesn't look like MD quality badge.
Ed_Haynes Posted August 29, 2006 Posted August 29, 2006 I have seen similar badge before, I don't like it at all, if you will compare quality of lower assembly badge you will see big difference. It doesn't look like MD quality badge.I know, Glenn. Discussed this with Bat. While he is not 100% sure, he thinks these are real. The jury is out, but one (big) vote is in.
Stogieman Posted August 29, 2006 Posted August 29, 2006 Well, my 2 cents is while the quality is certainly different... other aspects conform. Since these were made over an extended period of time, could this simply be a variation? That coal-black patina is not something you'll see achieved artificially in my experience with silver....
Dolf Posted August 29, 2006 Posted August 29, 2006 From this pic the red enamel doesn't seem of the same kind as the one on B 01 (am I right, Ed?), but anyway, it's still a very nice Badge! Congrats, Ed! Dolf
GlennC Posted August 30, 2006 Author Posted August 30, 2006 Ed,Can you show close up of MD mark and serial number on this badge.
Ed_Haynes Posted August 30, 2006 Posted August 30, 2006 Ed,Can you show close up of MD mark and serial number on this badge.Will try to do so. It eludes scanning, though.Will also do some comparative shots with the lower assembly badge.
Ed_Haynes Posted August 31, 2006 Posted August 31, 2006 (edited) Are there differences? Yes.The "Higher Assembly" badge is less rich in enamel color (does this make sense) and feels older. Is it a matter of wear of manufacture? Or . . . ??What are the differences in the legend? Must find out!More questions than answers just now. Edited August 31, 2006 by Ed_Haynes
Ed_Haynes Posted August 31, 2006 Posted August 31, 2006 I apologize for lousy photos of the reverse. Heavy pre-Ernesto rain precludes outside photography.Mintmarks. "Higher" on left, "lower" on right.I don't know if these lousy photos will tell you anything?!
Ed_Haynes Posted August 31, 2006 Posted August 31, 2006 The serial numbers are even harder to photograph and the images will be even worse (sorry). It may be time to drag out the old SLR? Or borrow my wife's microscope??Left - "higher" - 63, very shallow Right - "lower" - 161, really close to the flagpole, but you may have to take my word on thisSorry.
Stogieman Posted September 9, 2006 Posted September 9, 2006 I was thinking about this.... I believe we simply have 2 very different eras for each example. The one on the right being the (much) earlier piece.....Notice the differences in the lettering/script on the flags. As with all of the deputy badges from each republic. The shape of the flag, the pole and the image of the flag itself varied greatly over time...
Ed_Haynes Posted September 9, 2006 Posted September 9, 2006 I was thinking about this.... I believe we simply have 2 very different eras for each example. The one on the right being the (much) earlier piece.....Notice the differences in the lettering/script on the flags. As with all of the deputy badges from each republic. The shape of the flag, the pole and the image of the flag itself varied greatly over time...But the legends are quite different (whatever they say).
Stogieman Posted September 10, 2006 Posted September 10, 2006 Yes, but if you can identify when Mongolia made the changes in its' flag, wouldn't that tell us an approximate era for each style of badge?
Ed_Haynes Posted September 10, 2006 Posted September 10, 2006 The flag is easy, see: http://www.crwflags.com/fotw/flags/mn.htmlThe key, I think, will be to determine what the Mongolian abbreviations stand for. Requests are out.
Stogieman Posted September 12, 2006 Posted September 12, 2006 Hi ed, how come that site shows no flag like the one on the T1 Deputy Badges?? Or am I just dense and missing it???
Ed_Haynes Posted September 12, 2006 Posted September 12, 2006 (edited) Never a national flag. Just a (recurrent) red flag image, a generic? Edited September 12, 2006 by Ed_Haynes
Vatjan Posted September 12, 2006 Posted September 12, 2006 It's not the flag that counts, it's the soyombo.From 1945 on, there is a red star on top of the soyombo to signify the victory over Japan.Hetnce the type 1 badge should be a pre 1945 one Jan
Dolf Posted September 12, 2006 Posted September 12, 2006 It's not the flag that counts, it's the soyombo.From 1945 on, there is a red star on top of the soyombo to signify the victory over Japan.Hetnce the type 1 badge should be a pre 1945 one JanYou obviously mean a yellow star.Dolf
Vatjan Posted September 13, 2006 Posted September 13, 2006 You obviously mean a yellow star.Dolf Obviously
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