Ed_Haynes Posted February 1, 2006 Posted February 1, 2006 (edited) (And what a delightful [incorrect] name!)Just as a link to Yuri Yashnev's site on ОРДЕН ДРАГОЦЕННОГО ЖЕЗЛА:http://www.netdialogue.com/yy/Asia/Mongolia/EO/Eo.htm(Does Yuri really have one?!?) Edited April 22, 2007 by Ed_Haynes
Daniel Murphy Posted February 1, 2006 Posted February 1, 2006 (edited) (And what a delightful name!)Yes, I thought it would be some Queens solid gold...um....um... Nevermind.Dan Murphy Edited February 1, 2006 by Daniel Murphy
Stogieman Posted February 1, 2006 Posted February 1, 2006 Interesting Ed....... the ribbon looks exactly like Bulgarian Bravery Cross ribbon right down to the metallic threads at the edge stripes!
Ed_Haynes Posted February 1, 2006 Author Posted February 1, 2006 Interesting Ed....... the ribbon looks exactly like Bulgarian Bravery Cross ribbon right down to the metallic threads at the edge stripes! Yuri's is third class, the first class ribbon was yellow with the same stripes and the second class red with the same stripes. At least re-ribboning a third class badge -- if anyone had one -- might be possible?The renewed ORP uses different ribbons.
Stogieman Posted February 1, 2006 Posted February 1, 2006 Igor just posted one of these with extraordinary photographs (and value)
Ed_Haynes Posted April 13, 2006 Author Posted April 13, 2006 1- May I suggest an alternative nomenclature? The Order of the Vajra2- All Yuri's sites seem to be down OH NOOOOOO!3- Eye candy, 3rd class, 4th grade:
Dolf Posted April 14, 2006 Posted April 14, 2006 Very nice, Ed! What are they made of, brass? And the stones, what are they, any idea?Dolf
Ed_Haynes Posted May 5, 2006 Author Posted May 5, 2006 Very nice, Ed! What are they made of, brass? And the stones, what are they, any idea?Dolf1- Material - I assume this is some low-end gold or silver gilt. I have not taken it to a local jeweler to test; not so sure I'd trust them. I assume it was made in whatever Bjork (Battushig says Bock ? but were they still in business that late??) of St. Petersburg and other late-Tsarist Russian jewelers used in making their stuff. While some (a very few, post-1917 ones?) were made in Mongolia, this seems to me to be a pre-revolutionary Russian-made piece. Remember, the thing was only awarded from 1913 until the collapse of feudalism in 1924.2- Stones - Again, I am a historian not a gem specialist (to paraphrase Dr. McCoy). Looks like a real lapis lazuli in the centre (which it should be for this grade) and fake pearls around the edge. See close-up scan below.
Bob Hunter Posted May 5, 2006 Posted May 5, 2006 Just gotta love some the names for Mongolian awards.
Ed_Haynes Posted May 5, 2006 Author Posted May 5, 2006 Just gotta love some the names for Mongolian awards. Yes, "The Order of the Vajra". In English that is. The Mongol name is as yet elusive.
Bob Hunter Posted May 6, 2006 Posted May 6, 2006 I can see that being corrupted to something like viagra.
Dolf Posted May 6, 2006 Posted May 6, 2006 1- Material - I assume this is some low-end gold or silver gilt. I have not taken it to a local jeweler to test; not so sure I'd trust them. I assume it was made in whatever Bjork (Battushig says Bock ? but were they still in business that late??) of St. Petersburg and other late-Tsarist Russian jewelers used in making their stuff. While some (a very few, post-1917 ones?) were made in Mongolia, this seems to me to be a pre-revolutionary Russian-made piece. Remember, the thing was only awarded from 1913 until the collapse of feudalism in 1924.2- Stones - Again, I am a historian not a gem specialist (to paraphrase Dr. McCoy). Looks like a real lapis lazuli in the centre (which it should be for this grade) and fake pearls around the edge. See close-up scan below.Thanks a lot for the clarification Ed.Whatever it is made of, a very nice A 13 (3rd Class, 4th Grade, right?). A beautiful piece indeed!Dolf
Dolf Posted May 6, 2006 Posted May 6, 2006 Yes Thanks.Btw, there is another one of these for sale right now on the siter of that well known NJ dealer, ribbon missing, but for $5,500... Dolf
Gerd Becker Posted May 7, 2006 Posted May 7, 2006 Thanks.Btw, there is another one of these for sale right now on the siter of that well known NJ dealer, ribbon missing, but for $5,500... DolfDolf,we don?t have to play this game here on gmic too. You can say, its CollectRussia Gerd
Dolf Posted May 7, 2006 Posted May 7, 2006 Dolf,we don?t have to play this game here on gmic too. You can say, its CollectRussia GerdGerd,Yeah, probably the influence of such practice for a few years... you know what I mean Dolf
Gerd Becker Posted May 7, 2006 Posted May 7, 2006 Gerd,Yeah, probably the influence of such practice for a few years... you know what I mean DolfAbsolutely, Dolf
Stogieman Posted May 14, 2006 Posted May 14, 2006 There are no restrictions on mentioning a dealer site, nor on links to a dealer's site here guys.
Gerd Becker Posted May 14, 2006 Posted May 14, 2006 There are no restrictions on mentioning a dealer site, nor on links to a dealer's site here guys.Thanks for the confirmation, Rick.
Bob Posted May 29, 2006 Posted May 29, 2006 Prices have just come down significantly on these! Within reach for mere mortals now!
Stogieman Posted June 2, 2006 Posted June 2, 2006 Igor has posted up a couple and I think Alexei just updated with 2 very nice examples of this beautiful order.
Bob Posted June 18, 2006 Posted June 18, 2006 They all look the same (and unfortunately are not numbered) but nevertheless, they are pretty so here's another one.
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