Chris Boonzaier Posted January 29, 2013 Share Posted January 29, 2013 How many variations of this are there? Does anyone have a real gold one? Older models? Copies and Spangenstucke etc also welcomre on the thread. Thanks Chris Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Boonzaier Posted February 13, 2013 Author Share Posted February 13, 2013 Here is a silver one I used to have, the loop was repaired... it was also a Reis one... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spolei Posted February 13, 2013 Share Posted February 13, 2013 Hello Chris, would you show me the backside of the silver medal, with a better foto of the eyelet ? The engraver was Ries, not Reis. The medals with the big portrait are all Ries-medals, if they are original Regards Andreas Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Boonzaier Posted February 14, 2013 Author Share Posted February 14, 2013 Hi Andreas, I traded it years ago.... it was a good one, someone had it in a vice and the marks were on both sides... I think they had it in the vice when they redid the ring... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dond Posted February 14, 2013 Share Posted February 14, 2013 A wearer's copy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spolei Posted February 15, 2013 Share Posted February 15, 2013 A wearer's copy. Hello Don, do you know the age of this kind of copy? There is no FEK on the bar, so it would be sewed before 1934. Regards Andreas Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dond Posted February 15, 2013 Share Posted February 15, 2013 The problem with matching these to makers/eras is a lack of catalogs from the interwar years. Post 1920-pre 1934 is my best guess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spolei Posted February 16, 2013 Share Posted February 16, 2013 Hello Don, that's the problem. I would exclude the producer Godet, but I don't know the other producers in the 20th and 30th. A lot of medals were "faked" in the 80th and 90th. Regards Andreas Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dond Posted February 16, 2013 Share Posted February 16, 2013 Deumer has one in their catalog. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waldo Posted July 25, 2018 Share Posted July 25, 2018 (edited) Hello everybody, I have just seen the topic. Since I want to make a few additions. Here is a Ries, type 2b in gold Best regards and another type 1d in gold: Edited July 25, 2018 by waldo 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VtwinVince Posted July 25, 2018 Share Posted July 25, 2018 Very, very nice examples. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waldo Posted July 25, 2018 Share Posted July 25, 2018 (edited) type 1a in silver: a type 1c in silver: a type 2a in silver: a typ 1d in silver: Edited July 25, 2018 by waldo 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waldo Posted July 25, 2018 Share Posted July 25, 2018 (edited) Here is an overview of the variants of the Royal Bavarian Military Merit Medal. Have fun and best regards Walter Edited July 25, 2018 by waldo 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Boonzaier Posted January 16, 2020 Author Share Posted January 16, 2020 An interesting pic.... recipients of the TKM in line receiving their awards.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spolei Posted January 16, 2020 Share Posted January 16, 2020 Very interesting photo. At the 15th IR, 12 soldiers received the TM before May 16, 1915. However, different award dates are entered in the ranking lists. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Boonzaier Posted January 16, 2020 Author Share Posted January 16, 2020 29 minutes ago, spolei said: Very interesting photo. At the 15th IR, 12 soldiers received the TM before May 16, 1915. However, different award dates are entered in the ranking lists. Agreed, but for some guys I find 2 or even 3 dates for some awards... I assume all had it approved on different dates but the physical handing out was done at a ceremony Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spolei Posted January 16, 2020 Share Posted January 16, 2020 There are different dates for the medal for bravery. Act date, day of award, day of publication in the prescription sheet. The soldier was then honored on such occasions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Boonzaier Posted January 17, 2020 Author Share Posted January 17, 2020 9 hours ago, spolei said: There are different dates for the medal for bravery. Act date, day of award, day of publication in the prescription sheet. The soldier was then honored on such occasions. It is possible that especially this early in the war the old "You have been awarded the medal, here is the ribbon, the actual medal will be presented at a later date" could already have been in play. This could have been for 2 reasons... supply ... and the fact that the award was considered high enough that the presentation would be carried out by a high authority, and out of the line when the regiment could be assembeled for a ceremony... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spolei Posted January 17, 2020 Share Posted January 17, 2020 Until May 16, 1915, a total of 12 medals were awarded to soldiers of the 15th IR, so almost all medal holders must be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waldo Posted January 23, 2020 Share Posted January 23, 2020 I would make a little correction here. The three importent different dates are: 1st: day of deed, 2nd: approval by the king and 3rd: Issuing date of the certificate In the ordinance sheet of the Ministry of War, the date of the act is given as a standard in connection with the name. The reason for this is that the award is always made retrospectively to the date of the crime, so that the Benefit supplement are not reduced by delayed Commission decisions. The allowance always begins on the day of the deed. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Boonzaier Posted January 23, 2020 Author Share Posted January 23, 2020 Indeed... but I think the day the soldir recieved the actual medal, on a parade, may be the most important to him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waldo Posted January 23, 2020 Share Posted January 23, 2020 If the soldier does not find the payment of the money order so important, it is certainly so.? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waldo Posted December 17, 2022 Share Posted December 17, 2022 Here the golden military merit medal of Joseph Hoffmann, chief fireworker 1st AR "Prinz Luitpold", for an act on December 8, 1870 near Beaugency-Cravant. He had already been awarded the silver medal for 1866. Best regards, Walter 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waldo Posted October 29, 2023 Share Posted October 29, 2023 Hello, All recipients of the Bavarian Military Merit Medal (Medal of Bravery) from 1793 - 1918 are published by the OMSA. If you're interested, just take a look there. https://www.omsa.org/verleihungen-der-churfurstlichen-ab-1-januar-1806-koniglich-bayerischen-militar-verdienst-medaille-von-1793-1866-an-bayerische-truppenangehorige/ https://www.omsa.org/verleihungsliste-der-trager-der-bayerischen-militarverdienstmedaillen-im-ersten-weltkrieg/ Best regards Walter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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