Spasm Posted March 4, 2013 Share Posted March 4, 2013 Gents Bought these a few weeks ago and have utterly failed to find anything on the movements of Regt 161. Obviously spent time on the Somme but a few more details would be nice. Bar awarded to Rudolf Contzen of Koblenz, mostly made up of post war additions I believe. The honour cross is mounted within a hardcovered folder along with some award certs (no EK2 award doc though). No idea why the honour cross wasn't mounted on the bar other than he probably had the bar made up before he received the honour cross in 1935 (the other award certs are dated 1929). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Danner Posted March 4, 2013 Share Posted March 4, 2013 Some info: http://wiki-de.genealogy.net/IR_161 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Poulton Palmer Posted March 4, 2013 Share Posted March 4, 2013 Very nice bar! The Somme cross is in a less common variant: Beautiful!! I also like the Regimental cross: can't you find a Regimentsgeschichte of IR 161? Good luck, Poulton. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spasm Posted March 4, 2013 Author Share Posted March 4, 2013 Thanks Gents, I'm rubbish at finding stuff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Boonzaier Posted March 4, 2013 Share Posted March 4, 2013 Very nice indeed... lets see the documents!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spasm Posted March 5, 2013 Author Share Posted March 5, 2013 Here's the cardboard cover and the plastic folder. The helmet and 1914-1918 are raised. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spasm Posted March 5, 2013 Author Share Posted March 5, 2013 The folder opened. The honour cross cert is behind a clear plastic sheet and the honour cross is attached to a black velvet background. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spasm Posted March 5, 2013 Author Share Posted March 5, 2013 (edited) The other certificates that are in a sort of concertina slip case behind the honour cross certificate. There's also a map of Koblenz when it was spelled with a 'C' which puts it around 1909 and shows mostly military buildings. Rudolf was an installer of plumbing (fitted toilets or laying pipes?) Edited March 5, 2013 by Spasm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spasm Posted March 5, 2013 Author Share Posted March 5, 2013 Lastly the impressed manufacturer of the plastic folder - Fr. Wilh. Ruhfus. Dortmund D.R.G.M. D.R.P.a. and the back of the medal bar showing the Koblenz medal mounter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spasm Posted February 9, 2015 Author Share Posted February 9, 2015 Gents A bit of help please. A GMIC member is interested in buying the above bar, folder and certs. I think I remember how much I paid but cannot honestly say whether I got it cheap or whether I had my trousers pulled down. (I always seemed to pay for the wrong thing a couple of years ago - remember the EK1 that really binned me). Can anyone let me know the value of the above bar, folder and paperwork. PM me or on here if you like so that I can give the member an honest value. Thanks in advance Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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