paja Posted July 5, 2017 Author Posted July 5, 2017 Very nice, thanks for sharing! Any chance of seeing back sides?
BalkanCollector Posted July 6, 2017 Posted July 6, 2017 Thank you Paja! Yes of course, here they are.
paja Posted July 6, 2017 Author Posted July 6, 2017 Speaking of Bravery orders has anyone seen this variation before? They started appearing just recently, at least I didn't notice them before. They look like Type 2.5 but have huge numbers (500K!) on the back side and that pentagonal metal piece that holds the ribbon isn't gilded, but strangely enough the needle is. They were not being offered as some RRR variant nor was their price any higher than of the regular orders.
BalkanCollector Posted July 6, 2017 Posted July 6, 2017 I might be taking a long shot, but could it be the FRY Order of Bravery?
paja Posted July 7, 2017 Author Posted July 7, 2017 Even though some FRY decorations looked the same as SFRY ones that's not the case with the Bravery Order, it looked completely different. Here's an example posthumously awarded to Zoran Radosavljević (I can't remember where have I found this image).
BalkanCollector Posted July 7, 2017 Posted July 7, 2017 Wow, I didn't know that. Thanks for the information!
paja Posted July 7, 2017 Author Posted July 7, 2017 Don't mention it, a lot more information can be found HERE. Unfortunately some photos are not visible since the last forum upgrade but you can open them "manually" - just copy the link (example: http://gmic.co.uk/uploads/monthly....jpg) into your browser's search bar and press enter
BalkanCollector Posted July 7, 2017 Posted July 7, 2017 Great thread, thanks again! I forgot to ask a question about the Soviet made Order of Bravery. Do you know how many was made and awarded? The highest numbers I've seen on some pieces are around (+/-) 20,000.
paja Posted July 7, 2017 Author Posted July 7, 2017 You're welcome. Unfortunately I'm on vacation so I can't give you precise numbers now, as soon as I get back I'll check Rudež's book and let you know. Number of made ones is certainly larger than of awarded. I read somewhere that some of the unawarded Soviet pieces were melted and the material was used for the production of the Yugo type. Those orders have Soviet pentagonal metal ''suspensions''. The highest number on the Soviet type I've seen so far was 15XXX. I think numbers on Yugo type start from 10K.
BalkanCollector Posted July 8, 2017 Posted July 8, 2017 Interesting detail about the melting of the Soviet types to make Yugoslav ones. I would say thanks again but I've already done it for too many times in this thread.
paja Posted July 9, 2017 Author Posted July 9, 2017 I just remembered I wrote about the total number of the Soviet made Bravery Orders on other forum. According to Rudež Soviets made 25.750 pieces. When it comes to those Yugo made ones with Soviet suspensions, so far I've seen them in 38K-50K range.
BalkanCollector Posted July 9, 2017 Posted July 9, 2017 What's the difference between the Soviet and Yugo suspension?
paja Posted July 9, 2017 Author Posted July 9, 2017 Soviet type is made out of two pentagonal metal plates while Yugoslav is made out of single one. When you take a look at the back side you can see two rivets on the Soviet ones, they are on the sides, close to the needle.
paja Posted July 9, 2017 Author Posted July 9, 2017 I wrote about it in another topic on GMIC, here's what I meant. This is the Bravery Medal, but it's the same with that decoration. One more thing, the suspension ring is "connected" on the Soviet pieces while on the Yugoslav ones you can see the small "gap".
BalkanCollector Posted July 10, 2017 Posted July 10, 2017 Interesting. I've never noticed that differences.
BalkanCollector Posted September 21, 2017 Posted September 21, 2017 Very nice Soviet type Order of Bravery that I've seen on ebay auction. Very low number also! http://www.ebay.com/itm/YUGOSLAVIA-ORDER-OF-BRAVERY-RUSSIAN-TYPE-No-108-REALLY-RARE-/253159093098?hash=item3af175336a:g:KdUAAOSwy69ZuCNO
paja Posted September 21, 2017 Author Posted September 21, 2017 I saw it couple of weeks ago on a Serbian auction site, the price was about the same but no one bid. I think the lowest number I've seen so far is 55, it can be seen in the book "Orders and Medals of Communist Yugoslavia".
BalkanCollector Posted May 24, 2018 Posted May 24, 2018 A little update since I've acquired boxed and documented unnumbered IKOM type if I'm not mistaken.
Eric Gaumann Posted January 9, 2019 Posted January 9, 2019 I just received this one two days ago. Got sniped on the document that went with it but I like this early version. Looks like it had a home repair done to the ring which makes me like it all the more.
Eric Gaumann Posted January 10, 2019 Posted January 10, 2019 Got outbid. ;( To make matters worse it was a group of 5.
Drugo Posted January 10, 2019 Posted January 10, 2019 That seller is a disaster, it hurts every time I see him splitting documents and orders. Nobody will EVER be able to put those pieces back together once sold to different bidders! I bet he would make the same or more money just selling the entire lots together, but he doesn't hear from that ear...
BalkanCollector Posted January 10, 2019 Posted January 10, 2019 That's so sad. I don't know if it's allowed to post sellers name publicly but I think I know who you're talking about. I've seen a few groups for sale separately. One group even included a document for the Partisan Star 3rd class which is kinda rare to see. Such a shame...
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