stevenn Posted December 1, 2013 Share Posted December 1, 2013 From what I have read, there were 8 recipients of the Officer's Cross, with swords, of the Oldenburg House Merit Order of Peter Frederick Ludwig. Anyone know who the recipients were, or how I can find them without having to find numerous rank lists? Any help would be appreciated. Thank you. Stevenn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Komtur Posted December 1, 2013 Share Posted December 1, 2013 (edited) Oberst von Glasenapp Oberst von Oppen Oberstleutnant von Hohnhorst Oberst Hohnhorst Oberstleutnant Freiherr von Ledebur Oberstleutnant Heye Oberst v. Taysen Oberstleutnant Selkmann Oberst von Normann "more awards after 1918 are possible" According to Friedhelm Beyreiß Der Hausorden und die tragbaren Ehrenzeichen des Großherzogtums Oldenburg Regards, Komtur. Edited December 1, 2013 by Komtur Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevenn Posted December 1, 2013 Author Share Posted December 1, 2013 (edited) Thank you very much for your help. I've heard of Glasenapp, and Hohnhorst, but the others are new names to me. I have an officer's cross with swords, but had no idea that it was rare. I've seen quite a number of them without swords and always assumed that there must be 20 to 30 with swords. Is the book you refer to a relatively new publication which is easy to get, or is it something that can only be found in antiquarian book stores and a few libraries? I am surprised that there wasn't any naval recipients of the Officer's cross. I had a look at your Gallery and you have some fine pieces in your collection. I do have an Imperial German Jewish Chaplain's (as illustrated in Husken's Orden und Ehrenzeich des Deutchen Reiches 1871-1945 item 187); however, it looks as though someone tried to destroy it. There is a scar on the reverse, which shows on the obverse, that looks like it was hit with an axe. or a chisel, and then welded back together. Not in good shape, but it's better than not having one at all. Thank you again for your help. I must find out how to put photos in the forum. Stevenn Edited December 1, 2013 by stevenn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Komtur Posted December 2, 2013 Share Posted December 2, 2013 The Beyreiß book you can get easily new, may be you can get it somwhere else used and cheaper. Regards, Komtur. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Danner Posted December 2, 2013 Share Posted December 2, 2013 Thank you very much for your help. I've heard of Glasenapp, and Hohnhorst, but the others are new names to me. Four of these were also recipients of the Order pour le Merite: Ernst v. Hohnhorst Leopold Freiherr v. Ledebur Gustav v. Oppen Friedrich v. Taysen Most commanded Oldenburg regiments. Friedrich v. Taysen, commander of Sachsen-Weimar's IR 94, and Ernst Heye, were native Oldenburgers. Regards Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevenn Posted December 3, 2013 Author Share Posted December 3, 2013 Thank you both for all the great information. Interesting information regarding the PLMs. I often find that when I am going through dealers' catalogues that I am shaking my head at the values put on awards. Compare how many PLMs awarded vs. how many Oldenburg PFL officer crosses, with swords, were awarded and then look at the inverse relationship between rarity and value. I can understand how a national award makes a national hero, and that the rules of supply and demand, in the marketplace, help create monetary value, but the size of the inverse relationships still makes me wonder. The good news is that I do love the Oldenburg awards and can collect them without adding too many mortgages on the house, or arranging escrow, as is becoming the necessity with PLMs. Thanks again. I now have some research to keep me occupied while a blizzard rages outside. Stevenn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ccj Posted December 13, 2014 Share Posted December 13, 2014 Can anyone post a photo of the award, or better yet, this award in wear? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Komtur Posted December 13, 2014 Share Posted December 13, 2014 (edited) Oberst Hohnhorst Edited December 13, 2014 by Komtur Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Komtur Posted December 13, 2014 Share Posted December 13, 2014 Glasenapp Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mattyboy Posted December 13, 2014 Share Posted December 13, 2014 Great photos! And a nice array of awards too... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ccj Posted December 13, 2014 Share Posted December 13, 2014 He wears two? Is that regulation?Oberst Hohnhorst Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David M Posted December 14, 2014 Share Posted December 14, 2014 breast stars are the SAO2bX, the WKO2X and the OPFL2X Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ccj Posted December 14, 2014 Share Posted December 14, 2014 He wears EK1, Wound Badge, and two what appears to be two variations of the officer's class of Oldenburg Order of Duke Peter Friedrich Ludwig - Officer’s Cross with Swords. Hohnhorst. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Komtur Posted December 16, 2014 Share Posted December 16, 2014 ... Excellent quality copies are in circulation and are being sold as originals with great regularity. They are finding their way into major european auktion houses and are slipping past the experts. Recent examples are Zeige and Kuenker. ... May be it is of some use, to see an officer cross of the Oldenburg House Order without swords for comparison. I am quite sure, that this is an original awarded one. Regards, Komtur. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beau Newman Posted December 18, 2014 Share Posted December 18, 2014 FWIW, my understanding is that the only wartime jeweler for these was Bernard Knauer. They used the mark "B. KNAUER" up to the early '20's, usually on the underside of the pin. The mark was changed to simply "KNAUER" sometime in the early '20's. Although marks can easily be reproduced, I understand that pieces marked only "KNAUER" without the "B" are, at best, 1920's or 1930's replacements. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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