GM1 Posted February 3, 2014 Posted February 3, 2014 A start this new topic as I didn´t find any suitable for it: A medal I found in my grandfather's belongings: The Commemorative Medal of the Reign of King Leopold I, second class, established by Royal Decree of July 20th 1856. This medal was awarded to NCO and soldiers who counted on July 21st 1856 with at least 25 years of active and uninterrupted service. For the officers there was a Cross (1st Class), identical to the Civil Cross. Hope you enjoy this little treasure, GM1 1
paul wood Posted February 4, 2014 Posted February 4, 2014 Thank you for showing, these are often misidentified as civic decorations. Paul
TacHel Posted February 4, 2014 Posted February 4, 2014 Woa... Wait a minute... (rubbing eyes) What's the diff? Only the ribbon?
GM1 Posted February 5, 2014 Author Posted February 5, 2014 This decoration was instituted in 1856, while the civic decorations in 1867. According to Borné, only 1143 Crosses and 917 medals were awarded to the army and the guard-civique. Best Regards, GM1
paul wood Posted February 6, 2014 Posted February 6, 2014 The only difference is the suspension, the Leopold I suspension is plain at the top, the civic is more ornate. Paul
TacHel Posted February 6, 2014 Posted February 6, 2014 Just so we're clear Paul... This is the only difference?
Laurence Strong Posted February 7, 2014 Posted February 7, 2014 It appears as that would be correct Frank,Larry
paul wood Posted February 7, 2014 Posted February 7, 2014 Absolutely Frank hence the confusion. However if you get a Leopold I without a ribbon it will be a devil of a job to find one. Paul
GM1 Posted February 7, 2014 Author Posted February 7, 2014 Thanks for the additional information!! Best regards, GM1
TacHel Posted February 7, 2014 Posted February 7, 2014 Absolutely Frank hence the confusion. However if you get a Leopold I without a ribbon it will be a devil of a job to find one. Paul I was just thinking about that...
VC89 Posted February 8, 2014 Posted February 8, 2014 According to Borné (if my French is not failing me ) the ribbon is from between 30 July 1856 (it's creation) and 28 December 1859 (when they chaged the ribbon). It's the official version of the ribbon and it should be 37 mm wide (Green: 1 mm / amaranth: 6 mm / green: 23 mm / amaranth: 6 / green: 1 mm). The diameter of the medal should be 35 mm. (there are two drawnings of the medal in his book, with one bigger than the other, but I don't see a different diameter mentioned in the text. It could be 30 mm like the Civic decoration between 1867 and 1918 but it is not mentioned (also the civic decoration between 1867 and 1918 can have a diameter of 35 mm). To anwser TacHel: There should be no difference (except the small difference between the manufacturer). In his chapter of the Civic Decorations, Borné refers to the decree of 30 July 1856 for the shape. Vincent
Igor Ostapenko Posted September 11 Posted September 11 On 03/02/2014 at 21:44, GM1 said: A start this new topic as I didn´t find any suitable for it: A medal I found in my grandfather's belongings: The Commemorative Medal of the Reign of King Leopold I, second class, established by Royal Decree of July 20th 1856. This medal was awarded to NCO and soldiers who counted on July 21st 1856 with at least 25 years of active and uninterrupted service. For the officers there was a Cross (1st Class), identical to the Civil Cross. http://i63.servimg.com/u/f63/15/13/41/39/p1000410.jpg http://i63.servimg.com/u/f63/15/13/41/39/p1000413.jpg http://i63.servimg.com/u/f63/15/13/41/39/p1000411.jpg Hope you enjoy this little treasure, GM1 Very nice medal, thank you for sharing ! I think it’s 1st type of medal, only in 1856 y. awarding for army personnel. And I think it’s Hart production
Igor Ostapenko Posted September 12 Posted September 12 I think because not good quality of these medals next 1857 year veterans in Civil Guard receives medals from another producer - Wolfers . https://lib.ugent.be/en/catalog/rug01:002286395 “… Hoogte 38,42 ; breedte 3,37 ; gewicht 17,93 g. Verguld koper …” &&&&&&&&&&&&&&&& we can see picture of this variant in second volume of book Guiot 1869 &&&&&&&&&&&& and we can see illustration in book of Hollebeke, 1880 &&&&&&&&&&&&& ############## one medal 👍 ############## 1
GM1 Posted September 12 Author Posted September 12 (edited) Recently a 1st Class Cross for Officers arrived to my collection. Silver gilded, French production (borehead stamp). A nice example. best regards GM1 Edited September 12 by GM1 3
Igor Ostapenko Posted September 12 Posted September 12 8 hours ago, Igor Ostapenko said: I think because not good quality of these medals next 1857 year veterans in Civil Guard receives medals from another producer - Wolfers . https://lib.ugent.be/en/catalog/rug01:002286395 “… Hoogte 38,42 ; breedte 3,37 ; gewicht 17,93 g. Verguld koper …” &&&&&&&&&&&&&&&& we can see picture of this variant in second volume of book Guiot 1869 &&&&&&&&&&&& and we can see illustration in book of Hollebeke, 1880 &&&&&&&&&&&&& ############## one medal 👍 ############## Medal 2nd type with ribbon for Civil Guard ( picture from Facebook) 1
Igor Ostapenko Posted September 12 Posted September 12 5 hours ago, GM1 said: Recently a 1st Class Cross for Officers arrived to my collection. Silver gilded, French production (borehead stamp). A nice example. best regards GM1 Nice cross ! 👍 I have these crosses, hallmarked too 1 hour ago, Igor Ostapenko said: Medal 2nd type with ribbon for Civil Guard ( picture from Facebook) I need ribbon for medal second type. Ribbon for Civil Guards 1
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