ccj Posted July 5, 2014 Share Posted July 5, 2014 Can anyone help me finding data on Fußartillerie Regt 64? I found Feldartillerie Regt 64 but not Fuss Art Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Boonzaier Posted July 5, 2014 Share Posted July 5, 2014 You sure its a Regiment and not Battalion? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Danner Posted July 5, 2014 Share Posted July 5, 2014 Kgl. Sächs. Fußartillerie-Bataillon Nr. 64 was raised in Juli 1916 and demobilized in January 1919. The archives in Dresden have the unit's records. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ccj Posted July 6, 2014 Author Share Posted July 6, 2014 Thanks Dave, how do I find information on the Fußartillerie Regiments 60-64? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Danner Posted July 6, 2014 Share Posted July 6, 2014 (edited) They weren't regiments, but battalions. This is what I have, but I don't remember what the source was: Fußartillerie-Bataillone: • im Jahr 1915 aufgestellt: Nr. 21-24, 26-28, 29-31, 36, 38-40, 50, 52, 54, 56, 58, 84, b.10 • im Jahr 1916 aufgestellt: Nr. 25, 32-35, 37, 41-49, 51, 53, 55, 57, 59-83, 85-99, 150-157, 401-404, b.4, b.5, b.7-9, b.11-17 • im Jahr 1917 aufgestellt: Nr. 100, 101, 106-118, 124, 158, 159, 405-407, b.18-27 • im Jahr 1918 aufgestellt: Nr. 102-105, 110-123, 125-149, 160-164, 167-170, b.28, b.29 The following is from the Ehrenbuch der Schweren Artillerie: • Fußa.Btle. 41, 51, 60, 146, 158, 164, 172 and 406 were Garde. • Fußa.Btle.33, 61, 68, 98 and 151 were Badisch. As was Fußa.Btl. 24, which became FußAR 24. • Fußa.Btle. 58, 64, 72, 96, 102-5, 107, 152, 160, 161, and 404 were Saxon. FußAR 12 was the parent for Nrs. 72, 102, 103, 152 and 161. FußAR 19 was the parent of Nrs. 58, 64, 96, 104, 105, 107, 160 and 404. The parent of Fußa.Btl. 62 and Fußa.Btl. 63 was 2. Pomm. FußAR 15. Edited July 6, 2014 by Dave Danner Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Poulton Palmer Posted July 6, 2014 Share Posted July 6, 2014 In the "Ruhmeshalle unserer alten Armee" written by Dr Cron and others I can deduct the following: I can't see Fußa Btle 60, 62 and 63, only 61 and 64. Fußa Btl 61 fell under the 38. ID and 64 under the 109. ID. The latter ID fought mostly on the eastern front from nov 1915 on. From april 1918 till the end they were on the Somme front. Greetings, Poulton Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IrishGunner Posted July 6, 2014 Share Posted July 6, 2014 I have nothing to add now except concurrence with Dave's already posted expert comments. Later today I'll dig through my notes to see if I can expand anything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ccj Posted July 6, 2014 Author Share Posted July 6, 2014 Wonderful... I need to find more resources but finding those are even hard. Someone needs to sell digital books on WW1 formations Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ccj Posted July 6, 2014 Author Share Posted July 6, 2014 So all the Fußartillerie straps seen above 20 represent Battalions? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Danner Posted July 6, 2014 Share Posted July 6, 2014 I don't know how the numbering on straps worked, but Fußartillerie-Regiments go up to 28. FußAR 21-23 were formed in 1916, FußAR 24-28 were formed in 1917. Other new regiments were Bavarian 4-6 and Saxon RFußAR 12 and 19. You also have Fußartillerie-Bataillonsstäbe. These were formed in 1915-16 and numbered between 201 and 235. They were mostly repurposed/renumbered as Fußartillerie-Bataillone or Fußartillerie-Regimentsstäbe. For example, Fußa.Btl.St. 201 became Fußa.Btl. 55. Fußa.Btl.St. 203 became Fußa.Rgt.St. 203 on 22 August 1915. Most Fußartillerie-Regimentsstäbe were formed starting in January 1916, partly by renaming Fußartillerie-Bataillonsstäbe. The 1916 ones were Fußa.Rgt.St. 101-110, 206-208, 210, 212, 215, 218, 219, 223-225 and b.1-3. Fußa.Rgt.St.z.b.V. 1 was formed on 20 November 1916, and later was converted into Art.St.z.b.V. 2 (Gas). Fußa.Rgt.St. 111-125 were formed in 1917. These were called regiment and battalion staffs rather than regiments and battalions because they did not have a standard organization. Instead, they controlled various battalions/batteries which changed over time. The peacetime regimental headquarters effectively became this way too, as their battalions had been separately assigned to armies, corps and divisions. There were also a large number of separate (selbstständig) Fußartillerie-Batterien formed between 1914 and 1917. Many were combined into Fußartillerie-Bataillone. These had numbers up to 1025 in the army (Fußa.Battr. Nr. 1112-1020 were navy). And then there are the Reserve, Landwehr and Landsturm formations. According to Hermann Cron's Die Organisation des deutschen Heeres im Weltkriege, the total number of heavy artillery units upon mobilization consisted of: • 25 active and 23 reserve Fußartillerie-Regiments with 105 battalions or 382 batteries. • 2 Saxon Reserve-Fußartillerie-Bataillone with 8 batteries • 24 Landwehr-Fußartillerie-Bataillone with 96 batteries • 5 schwere Küstenmörser-Batterien • 3 kurze Marine-Kanonen-Batterien (42cm) • 22 Landsturm-Fußartillerie-Bataillone • 48 supernumary Festungs-Batterien Of these, the Feldheer went to war with 148 batteries. It is unclear to me, but I assume the rest remained in fortress or Ersatzheer duty, or were still being manned and trained up, and most joined the Feldheer later. Up to August 1916, to these were added 1 Fußartillerie-Regiment, 101 separate Fußartillerie-Bataillone and 665 separate Fußartillerie-Batterien. As the war progressed, most of the separate batteries were organized under the separate battalions. Cron then says at the end of the war, there were then 62 regiments with 190 battalions, 32 Regimentskommandos, 231 separate battalions, 7 kurze Marine-Kanonen-Batterien, 8 schwere Küstenmörser-Batterien, 5 schwere 15cm Kanonen-Batterien, and 50 mobile Landsturm batteries. According to Cron, the total number of batteries in the Feldheer at the end of the war was 1575, a tenfold increase over the 148 in August 1914. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ccj Posted July 7, 2014 Author Share Posted July 7, 2014 Great information... I found this at I didn't see Fußartillerie-Bataillon Nr. 62 -65. I guess its hard to find wartime units. Fuß-AR 26 Fußartillerie-Regiment Nr. 26 K <15.1.1917> Fuß-AR 27 Fußartillerie-Regiment Nr. 27 K <15.1.1917> ResFuß-AB 27 Reserve-Fußartillerie-Bataillon Nr. 27 Fuß-AR 28 Fußartillerie-Regiment Nr. 28 K <15.1.1917> Fuß-AB 28 Fußartillerie-Bataillon Nr. 28 LdwFuß-AB 28 Landwehr-Fußartillerie-Bataillon Nr. 28 ResFuß-AB 29 Reserve-Fußartillerie-Bataillon Nr. 29 Fuß-AB 32 Fußartillerie-Bataillon Nr. 32 Fuß-AB 33 Fußartillerie-Bataillon Nr. 33 LdwFuß-AB 40 Fußartillerie-Bataillon Nr. 40 Fuß-AB 44 Fußartillerie-Bataillon Nr. 44 Fuß-AB 54 Fußartillerie-Bataillon Nr. 54 Fuß-AB 56 Fußartillerie-Bataillon Nr. 56 Fuß-AB 58 Fußartillerie-Bataillon Nr. 58 Fuß-AB 60 Fußartillerie-Bataillon Nr. 60 LdwFuß-AB 61 Fußartillerie-Bataillon Nr. 61 Fuß-AB 66 Fußartillerie-Bataillon Nr. 66 Fuß-AB 68 Fußartillerie-Bataillon Nr. 68 Fuß-AB 73 Fußartillerie-Bataillon Nr. 73 Fuß-AB 76 Fußartillerie-Bataillon Nr. 76 Fuß-AB 82 Fußartillerie-Bataillon Nr. 82 Fuß-AB 88 Fußartillerie-Bataillon Nr. 88 Fuß-AB 89 Fußartillerie-Bataillon Nr. 89 Fuß-AB 93 Fußartillerie-Bataillon Nr. 93 Fuß-AB 97 Fußartillerie-Bataillon Nr. 97 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ccj Posted July 7, 2014 Author Share Posted July 7, 2014 Found this...assume Fußartillerie and not Feldartillerie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ccj Posted July 7, 2014 Author Share Posted July 7, 2014 Australia War Museum Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ccj Posted July 7, 2014 Author Share Posted July 7, 2014 A high number found on Collectors guild. Seems odd that straps for smaller battalions or batterie would be made. Maybe getting troops the correct straps wasn't a problem like I would assume. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IrishGunner Posted July 7, 2014 Share Posted July 7, 2014 I guess its hard to find wartime units. "Hard" is an understatement. Finding Fussartillerie units is extremely difficult. If you haven't searched the Forum, here are some old threads you might find interesting: http://gmic.co.uk/index.php/topic/41133-total-total-total-confusion/?hl=munitions#entry380548 http://gmic.co.uk/index.php/topic/56932-artillerie-gunners-in-uniform/?hl=%20shoulder%20%20strap And this article: http://gmic.co.uk/index.php/page/index.html/_/articles/artillery-in-the-first-world-war-the-kaisers-guns-r42 Can I ask why you are looking for info on FuARBatl Nr. 64? (Unfortunately, I have nothing from this unit.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prussian Posted July 7, 2014 Share Posted July 7, 2014 (edited) Hello friends! Fußartillerie-Bataillon 64 Set-up by Fußart.Rgt.19 Armed with 10cm M04 and schwere Feldhaubitze M13 In 1918 under command of 24rd Res.Div. I stole the following infos from the milex site: http://www.agw14-18.de/formgesch/formatio_allgemein.html Fußartillerie - Fußartillerie- Regimenter [62] : - Am 02.August aufgestellt: 1.G (III. 15.09.16), 2.G (III. 30.12.16), 1 (IV. 04.08.16), 2 (III. 14.08.16; IV. 02.07.17), 3 (III. 15.01.17), 4 (I.-III.), 5 (III. 01.06.15), 6 (I.-III.), 7 (IV. 24.09.17), 8 (III. 26.01.16), 9 (I.-III.), 10 (III. 15.01.17), 11 (III. 15.01.17), 12 (IV. 21.09.16), 13 (III. 22.07.16; IV. 28.08.16), 14 (III. 03.11.15; IV. 15.01.17), 15 (III. 30.12.16), 16 (III. 15.09.17), 17 (III. 19.07.18), 18 (IV. 09.11.15), 19 (III. 01.06.15), 20 (III. 15.01.17); 1.b. (III.03.03.15), 2.b. (III. 17.09.16), 3.b. (nur I.und II.). - Im Jahr 1916 aufgestellt: 21 (I. 28.11.16; II. und III. 15.01.17), 22 (I. 28.11.16; II. und III. 15.01.17), 23 (I. 28.11.16; II. und III. 15.01.17); 4.b. (I. und II. 27.12.16). - Im Jahr 1917 aufgestellt: 3.G (I.-IV. 12.12.17), 24 (I.-II. 19.12.17), 25 (I.-III. 15.01.17), 26 (I.-III. 15.01.17), 27 (I.-III. 15.01.17), 28 (I.-III. 15.01.17). - Am 11.Mai 1918 aufgestellt: 5.b. (I.-II.), 6.b. (I.-II.) [63] . Reserve- Fußartillerie- Regimenter: - Am 02.August 1914 mobil gemacht: 1.GRes (III. 04.11.18), 2.GRes (III. 18.10.16; IV. 21.10.17), 1 Res. (I.-II.), 2 Res. (III. 04.11.16), 3 Res. (III. 28.08.15), 4 Res. (III. 04.11.16), 5 Res. (I.-II.), 6 Res. (III. 11.09.15), 7 Res. (I.-III.; V. 12.03.16) [64] , 8 Res. (I.-II.), 9 Res. (III. 25.08.15; IV. 01.09.16), 10 Res. (I.-III.; IV. 18.10.16), 11 Res. (III. 30.12.15), 13 Res. (III. 22.08.15; IV. 16.06.17), 14 Res. (III. 01.02.15; IV. 04.11.16), 15 Res. (I.-II.), 16 Res. (I.-II.), 17 Res. (III. 01.01.16; IV. 04.11.16), 18 Res. (III. 08.09.15), 20 Res. (III. 01.02.15); b. 1.Res. (I.-II.), b. 2.Res. (I.-II.), b. 3.Res. (III.-IV. 28.01.16) - Am 31.März 1916 aufgestellt: 12 Res. (I.-III.) [65] . - Am 19.Januar 1917 aufgestellt: 19 Res. (I.-III.) [66] . Landwehr- Fußartillerie- Regimenter: - Am 11.Juli 1918 aufgestellt: Ldw.Fußa.Rgt. „Borkum“ [67] . Landwehr- Fußartillerie- Regimentsstäbe [68] : - Am 02.August 1914 mobil gemacht: 1, 3-5, 7, 8, 10, 11, 14-16, b.3. - Am 27.Oktober 1914 aufgestellt: b.2. - Am 19.Februar 1915 aufgestellt: b.1. - Am 10.Juni 1915 aufgestellt: 20. Fußartillerie- Regimentsstäbe: - Am 22.August 1915 aufgestellt: Fußa.Rgt.St. 203. - Im Jahr 1916 aufgestellt: Fußa.Rgt.St. 101-110, 206-208, 210, 212, 215, 218, 219, 223-225; b.1-3 [69] . - Am 20.November 1916 aufgestellt: Fußa.Rgt.St. z.b.V. 1 [70] . - Im Jahr 1917 aufgestellt: Fußa.Rgt.St. 111-125 [71] . Fußartillerie- Bataillone [72] : - Im Jahr 1915 aufgestellt: Nr. 21-24, 26-28, 29-31, 36, 38-40, 50, 52, 54, 56, 58, 84; b.10. - Im Jahr 1916 aufgestellt: Nr. 25, 32-35, 37, 41-49, 51, 53, 55, 57, 59-83, 85-99, 150-157, 401-404; b.4, b.5, b.7-9, b.11-17. - Im Jahr 1917 aufgestellt: Nr. 100, 101, 106-118, 124, 158, 159, 405-407; b.18-27. - Im Jahr 1918 aufgestellt: Nr. 102-105, 110-123, 125-149, 160-164, 167-170, b.28, b.29. Reserve- Fußartillerie- Bataillone [73] : - Am 02.August 1914 mobil gemacht: Res.Fußa.Btle 12, 19; b.6. Landwehr- Fußartillerie- Bataillone [74] : - Am 02.August 1914 mobil gemacht: 1.G, 2.G, 1-11, 13-20; b.1-3. - Im Dezember 1915 aufgestellt: 3.G, 4.G, II./1, II./4, 22, 26, 27, 28. - Im Frühjahr 1916 aufgestellt: II./6, 21, 23-25. - Im Herbst 1916 aufgestellt: 29-36, 38-45. - Im Jahr 1917 aufgestellt: 12, 37, 46-71. - Im Frühjahr 1918 aufgestellt: 72-76. Landsturm- Fußartillerie- Bataillone [75] : - Am 02.August 1914 mobil gemacht: I.-XV., XVII.-XX., b.I.-II.; 1./ und 2./b.3. - Am 05.Februar 1915 aufgestellt: 2./VIII. - Am 02.November 1916 aufgestellt: 2./VII. Feldartillerie- Ersatz- Bataillone: - Im Jahr 1914 aufgestellt: Nr. 21, 26-28, b.2, b.3 [76] . - Im Jahr 1916 aufgestellt: Fußart.E-Btl. der 1., 2. und 5.Armee [77] . - Im Jahr 1917 aufgestellt: Nr. 1-5 [78] . - Im Jahr 1918 aufgestellt: Nr. 6. Fußartillerie- Bataillonsstäbe [79] : - Im Jahr 1915 aufgestellt: Nr. 201 (FB55), 202 (FB28), 203 (Stab FR203), 204 (13.b.FB), 205 (FB 30), 206 (Stab FR206), 207 (Stab FR 207), 208 (Stab FR208), 209 (FB25), 210 (Stab FR210), b.211 (4.b.FB), 212 (Stab FR212), 213 (FB82), 214 (FB29), 215 (Stab FR215), 216 (15.b.FB), 217 (9.b.FB), 218 (Stab FR218), 219 (Stab FR219), 220 (8.b.FB), 221 (5.b.FB), 222 (FB12), 223 (Stab FR223), 224 (Stab FR224). - Im Jahr 1916 aufgestellt: Nr. 225 (Stab FR225), 226 (FB98), 227 (FB65), 228 (16.b.FB), 229 (FB83), 230 (III./1.GFR), 231 (24.b.FB), 232 (FB85), 233 (FB53), 234 (FB33), 235 (FB86). Fußartillerie- Batterien [80] : - Im Jahr 1914 aufgestellt: ResFußa.Battr. 22-31 [81] . - Im Jahr 1915 aufgestellt: Fußa.Battr. 11, 83, 84, 101-138, 199, 201-631. - Im Jahr 1916 aufgestellt. Fußa.Battr. 139-149, 632-797. - Im Jahr 1917 aufgestellt: 182-198, 1000-1021, 1023-1025. Kurze Marine-Kanonen- Batterien (42cm) [82] : - Am 02.August 1914 mobil gemacht: Battr. Nr. 1-3. - Im Jahr 1914 aufgestellt: Nr.4. - Im Jahr 1915 aufgestellt: Nr. 5-7. - Im Jahr 1916 aufgestellt: Nr. 8-10. - IM jahr 1917 aufgestellt: Nr. 7(neu) und Nr.11. Schwere Küstenmörser- Batterien (30,5cm) [83] : - Am 02.August 1914 mobil gemacht: Nr. 1-5. - Im Jahr 1914 aufgestellt: Nr. 6-7. - Im Jahr 1915 aufgestellt: Nr. 8-9. - Im Jahr 1916 aufgestellt: Nr.10. Schwere 15cm Kanonen- Batterien [84] : - Im Jahr 1915 aufgestellt: Nr.1-9. - Im Jahr 1916 aufgestellt: Nr. 10-31. - Im Jahr 1917 aufgestellt. Nr. 32-41. - Im Jahr 1918 aufgestellt: Nr. 42-48. Edited July 7, 2014 by The Prussian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ccj Posted July 8, 2014 Author Share Posted July 8, 2014 Landwehr-Fußartillerie-Bataillon Nr. 54. Landwehr-Fußartillerie-Bataillon Nr. 56. Fußartillerie-Bataillon Nr. 62. Fußartillerie-Bataillon Nr. 63. Landwehr-Fußartillerie-Bataillon Nr. 64. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ccj Posted July 11, 2014 Author Share Posted July 11, 2014 I was wondering how you determine what artillery equipment each Fußartillerie units used. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ccj Posted July 11, 2014 Author Share Posted July 11, 2014 Here's a M15 bluse to a Hauptmann of Fußartillerie Btl 62 with collar Litzen. Does this mean it was created from a guard unit? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ccj Posted July 13, 2014 Author Share Posted July 13, 2014 Artillerie-Kommandeur 109 Feldartillerie-Regiment Nr. 227 Fußartillerie-Bataillon Nr. 64 (from April 24, 1918) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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