bigjarofwasps Posted September 8, 2022 Share Posted September 8, 2022 Have received confirmation from the Police Federation, that there will be bars to the police LSGC, that match that of the ones previously announced to the Fire Service LSGC. There will be formal announcement, in the next few weeks, and will be back dated to the 11th March 2022. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cerrig-Man Posted September 26, 2022 Share Posted September 26, 2022 On 16/03/2019 at 09:19, bigjarofwasps said: Any speculation as to whether these bars will be sew on like the Special Constabulary ones, or slide on like the military? What about whether they'll have any crown on the (think of the potential for the new Kings crown here), or whether they'll just bear 30 years and 40 years respectively? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Wilkinson Posted September 26, 2022 Share Posted September 26, 2022 It's been suggested that the current QC will not be altered. We'll have to wait and see. Dave. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigjarofwasps Posted September 27, 2022 Share Posted September 27, 2022 (edited) 17 hours ago, Dave Wilkinson said: It's been suggested that the current QC will not be altered. We'll have to wait and see. Dave. Would appear, that King Charles has now opted for cypher with bearing a Kings crown? Assume this means that there will now be a change in cap badges etc. Although when this is likely to take place, I don’t know. An article I was reading suggested that we won’t see new bank notes until 2024 and coins would be minted as demand presented itself. Of course the million pound question is, when we will see a change in effigy on medals! Edited September 27, 2022 by bigjarofwasps Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cerrig-Man Posted October 7, 2022 Share Posted October 7, 2022 King Charles LSGC and bar, perhaps............... (*little mock up I've been tinkering with) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigjarofwasps Posted October 8, 2022 Share Posted October 8, 2022 Not physically seen one yet, but did see this update, with regards to the two bars, on the Kent Constabulary website https://www.kent.police.uk/foi-ai/kent- ... ol-l11020/ 3.3 Long Service and Good Conduct 3.3.1 This section of the protocol details the eligibility criteria for long service awards for officers and staff. 3.3.1.1 Police Officers 3.3.1.1.1 The police long service and good conduct medal is awarded to police officers, of all ranks, when they have completed 20 years’ “pensionable” or “approved” service. 3.3.1.1.1.1 There is additional recognition for 30 years and 40 years service. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigjarofwasps Posted November 2, 2022 Share Posted November 2, 2022 Anyone seen or been issued with one yet? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigjarofwasps Posted November 13, 2022 Share Posted November 13, 2022 Any spotted on parade today? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigjarofwasps Posted November 19, 2022 Share Posted November 19, 2022 Have it on good authority, that the fire service bar is now being officially issued. Trying to obtain photo, will post as soon as I receive it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigjarofwasps Posted November 20, 2022 Share Posted November 20, 2022 Found this… https://www.militarybadges.co.uk/miniature-medal-bars/long-service-etc.-2nd-awards/police-lsgc-2nd-award-miniature-medal-bar No photo sadly, but priced at £6.00 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigjarofwasps Posted November 20, 2022 Share Posted November 20, 2022 A source has provided me with this… ”This was shared with me whilst part of Civil Contingent on the Queens funeral parade by a senior fire fighter”. I strongly suspect, that all the emergency services bars will be the same. Shame there seen on and not slide on, but at least this additional service is now being recognised, formally!! Something that’s just occurred to me. I have a friend who did 20 years in the Fire Service (got his LSGC), then left and did 17 years in the Police before retiring. Would the 10 years Police service count towards a bar on the Fire Service LSGC or are they separate medals in that regard? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Wilkinson Posted November 20, 2022 Share Posted November 20, 2022 (edited) I don't think that the Royal Warrant would allow the amalgamation of long service criteria between the emergency services. That would create a considerable bit of confusion. For example, if someone did ten years in the fire service and then immediately ten years in the police, the individual, on the basis of your supposition would expect to receive a Police LS&GC medal at the end of his ten years of police service, with his fire service to count. No, I don't think so! As an aside, it won't be long before those bars are available on eBay for purchase by anyone and it follows that they will be added to medals by dealers to make them more desirable. The researching of PLS&GC medals is difficult unless the name is unusual so invariably the award of the "bar/bars" will be equally difficult to verify. Dave. Edited November 20, 2022 by Dave Wilkinson Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigjarofwasps Posted November 30, 2022 Share Posted November 30, 2022 (edited) First photograph, of 30 year bar. This group I’m informed belongs to the Chief Constable of the Isle of Man Constabulary. Personally, I think it looks rather nice! Edited November 30, 2022 by bigjarofwasps Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigjarofwasps Posted December 1, 2022 Share Posted December 1, 2022 Anymore examples out there? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigjarofwasps Posted January 7, 2023 Share Posted January 7, 2023 Thought this might be of interest? https://www.polfed.org/news/latest-news ... uct-medal/ Of particular interest is this paragraph… “The Royal Mint is currently in the process of redesigning a number of medals to display the image of King Charles III which could lead to delay for those eligible for a bar.” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigjarofwasps Posted January 11, 2023 Share Posted January 11, 2023 On 07/01/2023 at 09:04, bigjarofwasps said: Thought this might be of interest? https://www.polfed.org/news/latest-news ... uct-medal/ Of particular interest is this paragraph… “The Royal Mint is currently in the process of redesigning a number of medals to display the image of King Charles III which could lead to delay for those eligible for a bar.” I have learned from another platform, that West Midlands Police, are holding ceremony next week, during which 30 year bars will be awarded. Curious that these are available already despite the Royal Mint stating that there will be delays whilst they rectify the redesigning of effigy on a number of medals. Further to this, would be interested to learn when the New Years honours medals, will be formally presented. I would assume that these medals had been struck prior to there announcement? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Megan Posted January 11, 2023 Share Posted January 11, 2023 Most of the New Year Honours relate to orders whose design doesn't change as the monarch does, it's just BEMs, Royal Victorian Medals and the like which require a new obverse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigjarofwasps Posted January 11, 2023 Share Posted January 11, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, Megan said: Most of the New Year Honours relate to orders whose design doesn't change as the monarch does, it's just BEMs, Royal Victorian Medals and the like which require a new obverse. Does that mean do you think, that none change awards will be issued at an earlier date than those that require updating? I’m thinking of the King’s Police, Fire and Ambulance Medals, for example? Edited January 11, 2023 by bigjarofwasps Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zulu_00 Posted January 11, 2023 Share Posted January 11, 2023 1 hour ago, Megan said: Most of the New Year Honours relate to orders whose design doesn't change as the monarch does, it's just BEMs, Royal Victorian Medals and the like which require a new obverse. BEM doesn't have an effigy. Just a cypher on the reverse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Megan Posted January 12, 2023 Share Posted January 12, 2023 You're quite right, Zulu_00. The cypher has already been designed, so they just need to mint them. Police, Fire, and Ambulance medals will need new obverses. And my website will need updating! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigjarofwasps Posted January 12, 2023 Share Posted January 12, 2023 3 hours ago, Megan said: You're quite right, Zulu_00. The cypher has already been designed, so they just need to mint them. Police, Fire, and Ambulance medals will need new obverses. And my website will need updating! The Royal Mint certainly don’t appear to be in any hurry! The suspense is killing me 😱😂😂😂 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigjarofwasps Posted January 20, 2023 Share Posted January 20, 2023 West Midlands Police, had an award ceremony on Tuesday night (17th January), whereby 30 year bars were awarded. *LSGC’s were also presented. These medals bearing the E11R effigy, although when these officers physically qualified for their medals, I have not been able to confirm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cerrig-Man Posted February 14, 2023 Share Posted February 14, 2023 On 20/01/2023 at 14:54, bigjarofwasps said: West Midlands Police, had an award ceremony on Tuesday night (17th January), whereby 30 year bars were awarded. *LSGC’s were also presented. These medals bearing the E11R effigy, although when these officers physically qualified for their medals, I have not been able to confirm. Honestly surprised that there aren't more examples coming to light, given the amount of officers that surely must meet the criteria. I can only assume that delays at the Royal Mint, or indeed recipients waiting to see what the out come of the King's Coronation Medal, might be a factor. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigjarofwasps Posted April 23, 2023 Share Posted April 23, 2023 (edited) Not seen any other police examples. But here’s one to the Fire Service. https://www.forres-gazette.co.uk/news/fire-chief-s-decades-in-service-honoured-300836/ Edited April 23, 2023 by bigjarofwasps Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigjarofwasps Posted April 25, 2023 Share Posted April 25, 2023 Nice 30 year bar group to the fire service. (mounted by Mckay’s Medals and Kilts) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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