Scott Posted June 6, 2006 Posted June 6, 2006 (edited) Well it finally arrived. Yes, from what I've seen posted elsewhere, it's in the original box. Unfortunately, someone has scrached out the Egana mark on the interior lid. Otherwise, I'm very pleased Scott Edited June 6, 2006 by Scott
Scott Posted June 6, 2006 Posted June 6, 2006 Forgive me, but I couldn't resist a shot with it's German cousin...
spectre Posted December 7, 2006 Posted December 7, 2006 (edited) Here is a worn and modified piece, not as nice as Scott's minty one, but it might have a few more stories to tell. The hinge and catch were ground off and a screw post soldered on.Alan Edited December 7, 2006 by spectre
Scott Posted December 7, 2006 Posted December 7, 2006 Wow Alan - that one really talks. Nice find!Curious as to what percentage of German participants in the SCW were awarded this badge?Scott
spectre Posted December 7, 2006 Posted December 7, 2006 Hi Scott, interesting exercise, going by the general guidelines in Bender's Legion Condor book, those awarded this badge were also given the SC in gold. The count on the WA site is 1126 SC in gold awarded. Throw in the 28 diamond winners and that's 1154.I have also seen in some collection displays that those KIA in Spain had the SC in gold presented to the next of kin. Since that seems reasonable, subtract the 315 KIA and that leaves 839 with the Merito en Campana. With 26116 SC's awarded in all 6 grades, there would be a little over 3% with this badge. Of course if it was given to the next of kin of the ones killed the % would go up a little, I don't know if it was or not.But at the same time, looking at some of the pictures Jacques has of the SC being worn and at least two of those show white military service crosses on medal bars (which I would think they should have a silver SC without swords), they clearly have a cross with swords!! So with all of this, my little number crunching could go right out the window! Alan (stuck on a boring conference call)
Richard Gordon Posted December 7, 2006 Posted December 7, 2006 AlanNice and unusual conversion. Haven't seen the Cruz de Guerra converted like that before.Here's one of my two. Awarded to DKiG winner, Karl Hentschel JG77.Rich
Richard Gordon Posted December 7, 2006 Posted December 7, 2006 The two together. Both are standard pin-back.
Scott Posted December 8, 2006 Posted December 8, 2006 Nice pair Gordon!I had hoped the award of these may have made it to some Silver SC winners - not sure I can afford a gold SC to display my star with!Scott
Panzerpionier Posted December 8, 2006 Posted December 8, 2006 Hi Scott, interesting exercise, going by the general guidelines in Bender's Legion Condor book, those awarded this badge were also given the SC in gold. The count on the WA site is 1126 SC in gold awarded. Throw in the 28 diamond winners and that's 1154.I have also seen in some collection displays that those KIA in Spain had the SC in gold presented to the next of kin. Since that seems reasonable, subtract the 315 KIA and that leaves 839 with the Merito en Campana. With 26116 SC's awarded in all 6 grades, there would be a little over 3% with this badge. Of course if it was given to the next of kin of the ones killed the % would go up a little, I don't know if it was or not.But at the same time, looking at some of the pictures Jacques has of the SC being worn and at least two of those show white military service crosses on medal bars (which I would think they should have a silver SC without swords), they clearly have a cross with swords!! So with all of this, my little number crunching could go right out the window! Alan (stuck on a boring conference call)IMHO, Bender's theory about correspondence between German awards and Spanish awards is WRONG.These are the figures I have (Source: "La Ayuda Alemana a Espa?a 1936-1939". R. Hidalgo Salazar. Editorial San Martin. Madrid, 1975. ISBN 84-7140-103-7. Pages 225-226.):Spanish Military Merit Order medals (WHITE) awarded to LC members:Gran Cruz (Great Cross): 3Cruz de 3? clase (3rd class cross): 5Cruz de 2? clase (2nd class cross): 42Cruz de 1? clase (2nd class cross): 1234Other Spanish decorations awarded to LC members:Medalla Militar Individual (Military Medal, individual): 60Cruz de Guerra (War Cross): 986Cruz Roja del M?rito Militar (Military Merit Red Cross): 5600Medalla de la Campa?a (Campaign Medal): 14982Medalla de Sufrimientos por la Patria (Medal for Sufferings for the Country - Wound Medal): 206Unfortunately, those figures are incomplete: There are more than 60 recipients of the Military Medal, and I think most of those 14982 recipients of the Campaign medal received another medal too.Best regards
Jacques Posted December 8, 2006 Posted December 8, 2006 IMHO, Bender's theory about correspondence between German awards and Spanish awards is WRONG.These are the figures I have (Source: "La Ayuda Alemana a Espa?a 1936-1939". R. Hidalgo Salazar. Editorial San Martin. Madrid, 1975. ISBN 84-7140-103-7. Pages 225-226.):Spanish Military Merit Order medals (WHITE) awarded to LC members:Gran Cruz (Great Cross): 3Cruz de 3? clase (3rd class cross): 5Cruz de 2? clase (2nd class cross): 42Cruz de 1? clase (2nd class cross): 1234Other Spanish decorations awarded to LC members:Medalla Militar Individual (Military Medal, individual): 60Cruz de Guerra (War Cross): 986Cruz Roja del M?rito Militar (Military Merit Red Cross): 5600Medalla de la Campa?a (Campaign Medal): 14982Medalla de Sufrimientos por la Patria (Medal for Sufferings for the Country - Wound Medal): 206Unfortunately, those figures are incomplete: There are more than 60 recipients of the Military Medal, and I think most of those 14982 recipients of the Campaign medal received another medal too.Best regardsHi PanzerpionierI updated your "medalla militar" list and have around 92 names.Do you know a list of the recipients for the "sufrimientos por la patria" medal?jacques
Antonio Prieto Posted January 14, 2007 Posted January 14, 2007 These are TWO different awardsThis is a CRUZ DE GUERRA, PARA JEFES (War Cross for Chiefs)Created by Law of 14.3.1942 (Reglamento de Recompensas del Ej?rcito en tiempo de guerra) Wartime Awards Regulation for the ArmyReally this plaque for the owner get the cross a second time. The have two small plates on the arms for engraving the date of awardFor chiefs the plaque is of oxidized silver and the laurel and sword in bright gilt For officers and NCOs he plaque is of bronze and the laurel and sword in bright gilt Also exist the same WITH PALMES. The blue circle with the inscription AL MERITO EN CAMPA?A changes to red circle and the same inscriptionThe plaque add two gilt palmes over the laurel and swordsPlease see http://www.coleccionesmilitares.com/medall...xto/cguerra.htmThe other is a GRAN CRUZ ROJA DEL M?RITO MILITAR, PENSIONADACreated for royal decree by 3.8.1864. The red division is for wartime). This model is regulated by Decree 192/1937 by 21.1.1937 and Law of 14.3.1942Please see http://www.coleccionesmilitares.com/medallas/texto/omm.htmThe gilt plaque and the crown over the arm, denotes this grade. The white bars on the arms are the indicative of the pensionated conditionFor the identification of the different periods, coat of arms and crowns please see http://www.coleccionesmilitares.com/medall.../estudioomm.htm
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