kunsho Posted January 7, 2023 Posted January 7, 2023 I would like to „resurrect“ this interesting thread... first (we are all a bit visual) some pictures. Here comes the Thai Crown Order of Georg von Heimburg (1913 - 1916 commander of the 2. Schlesisches Feld Artillerie Regiment 42 as Oberstleutnant, later various functions and at last 1918 as Generalleutnant commander of the 94. Infanterie Division). Unfortunately I have no picture of him, found nothing in the www and I do not have the regimental history of the FAR 42 (surely there is one)… The Most Noble Order of the Crown of Thailand was awarded to him in 1913 and it is the 2nd model. Regards Matthias If I go into the book "Royal Thai Order and Decorations", third edition 2003, under the chapter „Most Noble Order of the Crown of Thailand“ then unfortunately I can't read anything because the complete text is in Thai. But I can translate the data in front of each text block and partially interpret the underlying images. Accordingly, changes must have taken place in the following years: 1871 (probably foundation), i.e. the first model, 1873 probably a somewhat differentiated classification and probably also a transition to the 2nd model. In 1891, instead of the officer's cross that had previously belonged to the grand officer's set, a neck cross was introduced for the grand officer's set. Something more comprehensive probably happened in 1893, as there is a lot of (Thai) text here, but I can't draw any conclusions here. In 1902 the gold and silver medals affiliated with the order were introduced. Then something also happened in 1911. Later in 1918, according to the accompanying pictures, the special class of the order was introduced (which has retained its original form to this day). There is also an entry for the year 1923, but I cannot interpret it. The last entry now concerns the year 1941. The first mentioned here is the classification 1 - 8. It looks as if the affiliate medals have only officially belonged to the order since 1941. Unfortunately, I cannot guess when the change from the 2nd model to the 3rd model (which has remained unchanged to this day) took place. For this I am as far as before….based on the pictures shown in this thread, however, I agree with Nick's opinion that the model change took place before 1941. Who knows exactly? You've had a few years to find out now 😉 And to loosen up the topic a few more pictures.... ...and more.... ...and one more set.... Here is a third model with the (at least for me) unusual hallmark "L". Can someone from the more specialized colleagues say something about this? Thank you in advance Matthias
webr55 Posted April 5, 2023 Posted April 5, 2023 Hello, I got this miniature chain of an Imperial German Reserve Officer, which also has a Siam Crown Order at the end. I have two questions for specialists: - I understand that the design of the Siam Crown Order changed in 1909, is it correct that this is a pre-1909 piece? - Also, as the 5th class (Knight) seems to have a silver medallion, would the gold medallion in my piece indicate that this is a 4th class (Officer)? Thanks Chris
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