Trooper_D Posted September 3, 2017 Posted September 3, 2017 (edited) T. (Thomas) Bentley Mott, 1865-1952 Source: https://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GRid=27942712 Amongst a list of military attachés attending the Grandes Manoeuvres of 1912, posted in this thread, was the name of the US military attaché, lieutenant colonel 'Bentley-Mott'. A career-Artillery officer, Captain Bentley Mott was posted to Paris as US military attaché in June, 1900. He served there until 1905, again from 1909 to 1913 and finally from 1919 to 1930. In 1937, he published his recollections of these postings in his book 'Twenty Years as Military Attache' (which included accounts of other postings, as well). For a quicker read, I can recommend an article he wrote in 1903 for Scribner's magazine entitled 'Work and Play of the Military Attachés', which can be found online, here, https://archive.org/stream/scribnersmagazin34newy#page/293/mode/1up According to an online source, he earned the following Silver Star, Distinguished Service Medal, Legion of Merit (United States); Commander Legion of Honor (French); Officer de l’Ordre de Leopold (Belgian); Companion of St. Michael and St. George (British); Officer Order of St. Stanislas (Russian) Source: http://prabook.com/web/person-view.html?profileId=1409438 He can easily be picked out in photographs by his habit of wearing what might be an 1889 Campaign Hat but what is probably, I think, a private-purchase civilian 'Cowboy hat'. The photo below (and I am reasonably sure it is him), from my collection, of unknown date illustrates this. Edited September 3, 2017 by Trooper_D
Trooper_D Posted September 3, 2017 Author Posted September 3, 2017 (edited) Here is a group shot of the foreign officers attenting the Grandes Manoeuvres de l'Est of 1904, with Mott on the second row down, extreme left. We know it's Mott because another version of this postcard helpfully prints the foreign officers' signatures below the group (but in rather small print so I am only showing two high resolution details from the original card). Compare this signature, immediately below on the left, with that on the portrait in the first post in this thread. Edited September 4, 2017 by Trooper_D
Bayern Posted September 4, 2017 Posted September 4, 2017 Interesting , very curious the mongolian boots of the chinese officer , the Argentine and the Bolivian attaches are still wearing full French type uniforms , the Chilean is nearly Prussian , not full yet .
Trooper_D Posted September 4, 2017 Author Posted September 4, 2017 16 hours ago, Bayern said: Interesting , very curious the mongolian boots of the chinese officer ... Well spotted, Bayern. As the New York Times observed (11 Sep 1904, p. 4), in their report of the reception various of the military attaches received at the Grandes Manoeuvres, "A Chinese officer, in a quaint uniform, attracted marked attention".
Bayern Posted September 5, 2017 Posted September 5, 2017 Trooper : Thanks , and in your last post is another pair of points to note , one the presence for the first time of the German attache . the other the contrast between the warm attitude with Russia and the hardly correct with Japan and Great Britain . Well ,Japan was besieging Port Arthur , in the hands of France ally , Russia . respct to Great Britain , Fachoda was not so far in the time
Trooper_D Posted September 5, 2017 Author Posted September 5, 2017 9 hours ago, Bayern said: Trooper : Thanks , and in your last post is another pair of points to note , one the presence for the first time of the German attache . the other the contrast between the warm attitude with Russia and the hardly correct with Japan and Great Britain . Well ,Japan was besieging Port Arthur , in the hands of France ally , Russia . respct to Great Britain , Fachoda was not so far in the time Bayern Thank you for your astute observation about the geopolitical problems of having officers from so many nations, some of whom shared an antipathy - which, as in the case of Japan and Russia, might well be out in the open. You may know that at the end of each day of the Grandes Manoeuvres, the French military authorities laid on lavish dinners for the military attaches. I would imagine that preparing the table plan was a diplomatic nightmare for the reasons you state!
paja Posted September 5, 2017 Posted September 5, 2017 Thanks you very much for the "officiers etrangers" post card scans. Serbian representative was colonel Petar Bojović (Петар Бојовић).
paja Posted September 5, 2017 Posted September 5, 2017 Foreign officers who attended the maneuvers. I'll write their names down later, here's a list from newspapers for now.
Trooper_D Posted September 5, 2017 Author Posted September 5, 2017 4 hours ago, paja said: Foreign officers who attended the maneuvers. I'll write their names down later, here's a list from newspapers for now. What a great contribution to the thread, Paja. May I ask where this comes from and is it the same publication you used to produce the names for the 1912 manoeuvres in the other thread?
Bayern Posted September 6, 2017 Posted September 6, 2017 14 hours ago, Trooper_D said: Bayern Thank you for your astute observation about the geopolitical problems of having officers from so many nations, some of whom shared an antipathy - which, as in the case of Japan and Russia, might well be out in the open. You may know that at the end of each day of the Grandes Manoeuvres, the French military authorities laid on lavish dinners for the military attaches. I would imagine that preparing the table plan was a diplomatic nightmare for the reasons you state! My pleasure , yes , a delicate affaire de etiquette , complicated more with the other theme , the precedence ,based in the seniority of the the attaches in the appointment
Bayern Posted September 6, 2017 Posted September 6, 2017 Very very interesting Paja , thanks . I discovered the name of the Argentinian Attache , Vedia , might be the later General Agustin de Vedia .The Austrian , Herberstein , Count Herberstein was later ,General and Chief of the Militarkbinett or something similar of Archduke Friedrich , the Commander in chief of the Austro Hungarian forces during ww1 until 1917 when he was replaced by his cousin Archduke Joseph . Herberstein was a mix of soldier and courtier . Petar Bojovic if i am not wrong ,later became one of the most succesfulls Voivodas of the Serbian Army .
paja Posted September 6, 2017 Posted September 6, 2017 7 hours ago, Bayern said: ...Petar Bojovic if i am not wrong ,later became one of the most succesfulls Voivodas of the Serbian Army . You are correct, that's the same person. He was one of the four, well actually five Serbian/Yugoslav vojvodas if you count d'Esperey.
paja Posted September 6, 2017 Posted September 6, 2017 12 hours ago, Trooper_D said: What a great contribution to the thread, Paja. May I ask where this comes from and is it the same publication you used to produce the names for the 1912 manoeuvres in the other thread? List from 1904 was published in the "Le Petit Parisien" journal and I think the other one is from "Le Gaulois". If you wish I can check which editions, unfortunately I saved just the cropped lists.
paja Posted September 6, 2017 Posted September 6, 2017 (edited) Germany: von Hugo, squadron commander, 3rd guards uhlan regiment (?), military attacheEngland: Bonham, infantry lieutenant colonel, military attacheArgentina: de Vedia, general staff major, military attacheAustria-Hungary: count of Herberstein, general staff major, military attacheBelgium: Pioch, major generalBolivia: Suarez, cavalry lieutenant colonel, military attacheBulgaria: Neresov, general staff majorChile: Gormaz, general staff major, military attacheChina: Wang, colonel.Denmark: de Hegermann-Lindencrone, major generalSpain: Echagüe y Santoyo, engineer major, military attacheUnited States: Bentley-Mott, artillery captain, military attacheGreece: Milioly, artillery majorItaly: Chaperon, general staff lieutenant colonel, military attacheJapan: count Hisamatsu, infantry battalion commander, military attacheMexico: Mondragon, brigade general, military attache; Corarrubias, artillery captainNetherlands: Bruce, general staff lieutenant colonelPortugal: Ferreira, artillery captainRomania: Miclesco, artillery captain, military attacheRussia: Lazarev, general staff colonel, military attacheSerbia: Petar Bojović, general staff colonelSweden and Norway: baron Odelsward, cavalry captain, military attacheSwitzerland: Galiffe, general staff lieutenant colonel; Van Berchern, artillery lieutenant colonel French officers who accompanied them: -Holender -Chere -Coste -de Ribainse -Boucabeille -de Castelbajac -Vide If I miswrote some names or made other mistakes please fell free to correct me. Edited September 7, 2017 by paja
Great Dane Posted September 6, 2017 Posted September 6, 2017 Danish participant would be Johan Frederik (Fritz) Hegermann-Lindencrone. Note the 'H'... /Michael
Daffy Duck Posted September 7, 2017 Posted September 7, 2017 Paja, that was excellent! Thank you for your effort!
Bayern Posted September 8, 2017 Posted September 8, 2017 Paja: each day one learns something new ,i ignored until now that Franchet D Esperey was honoured as Voivoda , Title that was something more if I am not wrong, than a mere military honour ,
Trooper_D Posted September 8, 2017 Author Posted September 8, 2017 (edited) 8 hours ago, Ulsterman said: outstanding thread! As thread starter, thank you - as ever on GMIC, it's a great team effort. Edited September 8, 2017 by Trooper_D
paja Posted September 8, 2017 Posted September 8, 2017 10 hours ago, Bayern said: Paja: each day one learns something new ,i ignored until now that Franchet D Esperey was honoured as Voivoda , Title that was something more if I am not wrong, than a mere military honour , Apologies for not being more precise, there was a distinction between honorary vojvoda and "battle vojvoda". Battle vojvoda was the highest military rank in the Kingdom of Serbia/SCS/Yugoslavia and a general could become vojvoda only during the war for particularly successful work. d'Esperey was honorary vojvoda.
paja Posted September 11, 2017 Posted September 11, 2017 (edited) Don''t mention it. Looks like Bentley-Mott attended the "Grandes manœuvres de l'Est" in 1901 as well.Switzerland: Secretan, colonel; Baumann, lieutenant colonelDenmark: Kranold, general of the 1st Jutland brigadePeru: Althaus, colonelItaly: Barattieri di San Pietro, colonel, embassy attacheBelgium: Theophile Wahis, colonelBulgaria: Nazlamov, colonel of the 1st cavalry regiment;Portugal: Antonio Rodrigues Ribero, colonelSerbia: Svetislav Isaković, engineer colonelMexico: Mondragon, artillery colonelRussia: Lazarev, lieutenant colonel, military attache; Dmitri Oznobishin, captainGreece: Soutzo, lieutenant colonel, Cavalry school commanderEngland: Edward James Montagu-Stuart-WortleyJapan: Akachi, lieutenant colonel, military attacheNetherlands: Van Voorst, lieutenant colonelSpain: Francisco Echagüe y Santoyo, military attacheArgentina: de Vedia, military attacheGermany: von Hugo, squadron commander, 3rd guards uhlan regimentAustria-Hungary: count Herbenstein, military attacheSweden: Heftye, military attacheRomania: Miclesco, military attacheEcuador: Gagliardo, military attacheUnited States: Bentley-Mott, military attache Photo and the list found HERE Edited September 11, 2017 by paja
Bayern Posted September 12, 2017 Posted September 12, 2017 Paja : De Vedia , Herbenstein, Mondragon , appears as in those years the duration of thepost of attache was longer .Mondragon is the inventor of the semiautomatic rifle of the same name , used to same extent by German flyers during WW1.Apart from this skills was a typical Mexican putschist militar .
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