problem with a medal bar

[xxx]

gentleman

I don't collector medals but still take a look into this forum from time to time to learn a little bit. there is now a problem which brings me here with a question about the medal bar of an prussian soldier who served in the wars from 1864 to 1871.

only for my pleasure  and at my own expence I restore the bars of the local veterans still hanging in our church. most times easy: Königsgrätz cross, 70/71 medal and Centenar medal. bought the cheap ones on ebay for 10 euro a piece, soft solder an new hook and hang it back to the bar.

Unteroffizier Albert Schmeckebier from the Brandenburgische Pionierbattailion No. 3 is a little problem

pic showing the bar in the first but wrong order as I know now

the ribbons hanging there for over 100 years and only a look behind show me what they realy are

he had 4 medals

1. unknown black-white-black-white-black, measure 30,9 mm

2. ribbon for the 1864 prussian-austrain medal

3. ribbon for the 1866 Königsgrätz cross

4. ribbon for the 1870/71 medal

what could be the first ribbon??? an iron cross 2 .class?

I remember there is a list available with all iron cross winners from 1870. if someone who had this list take a look if this name appear?

or could it be a Militär-Ehrenzeichen 2. class ?

 

thank you for your help

 

[arb]

Albert Schmeckebier, Gefreiter in d. 1. Feld Pion. Komp. des 3. Armee Korps was awarded the EKII.

 

[VtwinVince]

Looks like goofy reihenfolge on this one, with EK2 in second position.

[dedehansen]

Hi I think we have:

EK 2 1870

MEZ 2

Erinnerungskreuz Königsgrätz

KDM 70/71

Kind regards
Andreas

[xxx]

so you find his name in this list? thank you very much for your help

no, the ribbons are in the right order it only bleach out in a different way over the century because of daily sunlight. I have remove the bar from the plate and the second ribbon is black - yellow -black-white- black , sorry no pic was made. so number two is without question the ribbon for the prussian-austrian 1864 medal. before knowing this I was believing the first ribbon was for the 1864 medal but this will be changed.

I will look for one of the 1870 EK 2  copy's now around everywhere to make a "Spangenstück" because an original will be to expensive.

[Utgardloki]

I would definitely go for  copy, even if the money would be no problem, cause this is not the right place to store such a rare  and delicate piece. The changing temperature and maybe humidity and sunlight would for sure have an impact  on it over the years.

[Eric Gaumann]

19 hours ago, Utgardloki said:

I would definitely go for  copy, even if the money would be no problem, cause this is not the right place to store such a rare  and delicate piece. The changing temperature and maybe humidity and sunlight would for sure have an impact  on it over the years.

I agree about conditions.  But I'd be more concerned about the possibility of theft.  I hope these displays are kept in a very safe place.  Very nice work done by OP!