Need help (more info person)

[ixhs]

Hi !

I am looking for more infos about

Stabsarzt Dr. Fischer (later Oberstabsarzt) in Ulm  (kingdom of Wuerttemberg)

I know that he was decorated with

-Kriegsdenkmünze 1870/71 (i do not know  "combatant" or non combatant")

- Bayerisches Verdienstkreuz für 1870/71

Are there more infos about him  - especially i would like to know if he was still alive in around 1914/18

and if he got more decorations (for example Friedrichsorden knight)

Thank you very much.

[ixhs]

Sorry for asking again:

I found my infos in Wuerttemberg Hof und Staatshandbuch 1877

In the 1869 phonebook of Ulm he is listed only as "Dr. Fischer".

Any more infos out there?

Edited November 12, 2019 by ixhs

[Glenn J]

Hi, 

I can find nothing to suggest that Dr. Carl (Karl) Fischer of Ulm with the BVK was a later medical officer. He is not to be found as a medical officer of the Beurlaubtenstandes and disappears from the Reichs Medizinal-Kalendar after 1891. He apparently qualified in 1867.

Regards

Glenn

[GreyC]

18 hours ago, ixhs said:

In the 1869 phonebook of Ulm

Addressbook, surely ?

1868: Hospitalarzt in Ulm.

This could be his doctoral dissertation. If so, He was born 1843

Titel:	De melituria : dissertatio inauguralis historico-medica / publice defendet auctor Carolus Fischer
	Verfasser:	Fischer, Carl *1843-*
	Ort/Jahr:	Berolini : Lange, 1867
	Ort(e):	Berlin
	Sprache/n:	Latein
	Art des Inhalts:	Hochschulschrift
	Umfang:	32 S. ; 8"
	Hochschulschrift:	Berlin, Univ., Diss., 1867
	Schlagwörter:	*Medizin

GreyC

Edited November 13, 2019 by GreyC

[ixhs]

Thanks a lot !

 i am not sure, but may be i`ve made a mistake:

In 1877 Staatshandbuch  - page 189 says:

Einstein, Stabsarzt in Ulm and than:

Fischer, Dr. daselbst (daselbst means he is also living in Ulm)

I think he´s Dr. - but not Stabsarzt.

The problem is, that "Fischer" is a damn common name in Germany.

1843 sounds good. my considerations were, that if was active in 1870 he should be born around 1840-45.

I also found an entry in the internet, that he was still Hospitalarzt in around 1900 in Ulm.

In 1914 he would have been around 70 years - that would fit with the IC "non-combatant" and Wilhelmscross without X for

"home merit".

I hope, i will get the data of the 1870/71 cross, soon - and get the data of Oldenburg and

Braunschweig - i need it for trying two ID 2 other bars....

 

Edited November 13, 2019 by ixhs

[Bayern]

Hello, In the Old Prussia and other German States before 1871 and after ,the Doctors with a charge in Public Hospitals were titled according with category , Assistent Arzt, Ober Assistent Arzt , Stabsarzt, Oberarzt . etc much alike as the Army doctors . that s for civilian ones . apart from this ,many doctors acting in civil Hospitals were also military doctors.

[GreyC]

3 hours ago, Bayern said:

Assistent Arzt, Ober Assistent Arzt , Stabsarzt, Oberarzt

Hi,

Stabsarzt in a non-military hospital? Interesting. Or did you mean Stationsarzt?

GreyC

[Bayern]

Hello GreyC, Stabsarzt , in a non military hospital but under State management

[GreyC]

Interesting.

Thank you.

GreyC

[Bayern]

Hello GreyC . My pleasure . I said State management ,more appropiate is State payment, Civil servants , beamten , were payed by the State , for reasons of rationality were grouped into Pay Groups ,Diet Klasse , well , In a Country were the Army and the State were twins , the Army modelled 

[ixhs]

Now i have the full data of the Staatsarchiv Stuttgart of the bavarian merit cross 1870/71

(awarded to Wuerttemberg citizens)

-I did a lot of research in the last days.

The only persons, which could be possible candidats of my Schnalle are:

-Wundarzt Menniken Stuttgart

-Fabrikant Carl Vetter Stuttgart

-praktischer Arzt Dr. ......... (i cannot read his name) Stuttgart

-our known Dr. Carl (Karl) Fischer, born 1843 - may be died in around 1925

-Feinbäcker Eustachius Mühlhäuser born 1834 Göppingen, married in Stuttgart 1860 - may be died in around 1920

-Kaufmann und Agent Robert Vischer Stuttgart

-Privatier Adolf Deyhle Stuttgart

-Billetdruck der Eisenbahndirektion und Vorstand des Verpflegungsvereins Johannes Schwab, Stuttgart

-Evangelischer Pfarrer Schmidt, Stuttgart, Schriftführer des Sanitätsvereins Stuttgart

-Wieland Wilhelm, Privatier Stuttgart

All other candidates were died bevor 1914 - or did earn other decorations (mostly prussian KO 3 or KO4 with red cross).

Any more infos about the persons out there?

Thanks.

Edited December 11, 2019 by ixhs

[ixhs]

Here´s the unreadable name of the prakt.(ischer) Arzt Dr....... in Stuttgart

Any idea?

[GreyC]

Huten? Guten?

 

Edited December 10, 2019 by GreyC

[ixhs]

Thanks i have checked:

 

Huter, Huten, Hüter, Guter, Guten, Güter

No entry in Stuttgart Adressbook of 1871.

If i have found the correct Schmidt - he has gotten other decorations (Olgaorden, KO4, FO2 .. )

So i think we can remove him.

What i also know is, that Wieland was still alive in 1914.

Edited December 11, 2019 by ixhs