Chris Boonzaier Posted August 28, 2020 Share Posted August 28, 2020 Has anyone ever seen one of these, either in pictures or in the flesh? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bayern Posted September 2, 2020 Share Posted September 2, 2020 What can I see on the pic are : a man with bavarian officer pickelhaube, behind him what appears a stahlhelm with some design painted on the front and the Bavarian shield on the left side and a man with stahlhelm moustache and Bavarian borte over the collar of his tunic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric Stahlhut Posted September 2, 2020 Share Posted September 2, 2020 i think the semi-hidden decorated (freikorps?) helmet is a very rare visorless m18 model. not sure if or why the lugs are decorated Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Boonzaier Posted September 2, 2020 Author Share Posted September 2, 2020 Indeed... the guy in the middle has the Freikorps von Epp lion badge in the front of the helmet! I have never seen that before... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric Stahlhut Posted September 2, 2020 Share Posted September 2, 2020 you think his helmet is cool, you should see his garford-putilov armored car parked around the corner!!! j/k Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bolewts58 Posted September 3, 2020 Share Posted September 3, 2020 Two Epp helmets. The one in the top left has a faded lion symbol in red on the front. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bayern Posted September 3, 2020 Share Posted September 3, 2020 Most desirable certainly . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bolewts58 Posted September 3, 2020 Share Posted September 3, 2020 (edited) The helmet in the first picture also has the Bavarian shield on the side as worn by Freikorps Epp when it was in the Reichswehr. Here a picture of the Drum and Bugle corps of 1. bayer. Reichswehr-Schützen-Regiment 41 (Freikorps Epp) showing a similar Bavarian shield on the side of their helmets. Edited September 3, 2020 by bolewts58 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric Stahlhut Posted September 3, 2020 Share Posted September 3, 2020 (edited) this guy must have been a royalist, as his has a wittelsbach crown above the wappen. perfect headgear for a fahnenweihe or appell! no idea if it is real, but description stated it came from a canadian military museum Edited September 3, 2020 by Eric Stahlhut Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bolewts58 Posted September 4, 2020 Share Posted September 4, 2020 7 hours ago, Eric Stahlhut said: this guy must have been a royalist, as his has a wittelsbach crown above the wappen. perfect headgear for a fahnenweihe or appell! no idea if it is real, but description stated it came from a canadian military museum This version was, I believe an early pattern of the Reichswehr helmet from somewhere around June to September 1919. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric Stahlhut Posted September 4, 2020 Share Posted September 4, 2020 so, an approved provisional emblem instead of a street-fighting-type unit emblem? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bayern Posted September 4, 2020 Share Posted September 4, 2020 In fact was one of two variants weared by Freikorps von Epp when it was transformed in the XXI Brigade of the Provisional Reichswehr . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric Stahlhut Posted September 4, 2020 Share Posted September 4, 2020 thank you! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bolewts58 Posted September 4, 2020 Share Posted September 4, 2020 19 hours ago, Bayern said: In fact was one of two variants weared by Freikorps von Epp when it was transformed in the XXI Brigade of the Provisional Reichswehr . I believe this was the first type from, as I said June-September 1919, as in the first half of 1919, at least the Bavarian Freikorps and Einwohnerwehr were ardent royalists and anti-Weimar republic who wanted to restore the Wittelsbach dynasty to the throne in Bavaria. Thus, the crown. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bayern Posted September 5, 2020 Share Posted September 5, 2020 Eric My pleasure ! bolewt 58 , its true , the Bavarians remained monarchists and I think that not was until 1921 that the crown was discarded . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Boonzaier Posted September 6, 2020 Author Share Posted September 6, 2020 Here are some pics.... on the one with the musicians you can see a bit of variety with the shields.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bayern Posted September 7, 2020 Share Posted September 7, 2020 I see and the date is October of 1921 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dante Posted September 11, 2020 Share Posted September 11, 2020 Here are two from my collection Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bayern Posted September 12, 2020 Share Posted September 12, 2020 Nice pieces Lucky Gentleman ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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