lilnuke Posted January 8, 2021 Share Posted January 8, 2021 I recently acquired this miniature grouping. I usually stick with German imperial groupings, but this one caught my eye with all of the different awards. It would appear to possibly be a well traveled diplomat? I was curious if it was possible to be attributed and determine the missing award? What I see: Order of Dannebrog in Gold Order of Dannebrog in Silver French Legion of Honor Greek Order of the Redeemer Mecklenburg-Schwerin Order of Wendish Crown Thailand Order of the Crown Prussian Order of the Crown, Fourth Class Best regards, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
laurentius Posted January 8, 2021 Share Posted January 8, 2021 Dear Lilnuke, a very nice chain, perhaps not German imperial but still in that zone. Given the lack of combat awards I suspect the owner of this chain to be courtier or politician. The third medal might be some form of coronation or jubileummedal? Kind regards, Laurentius 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul wood Posted January 8, 2021 Share Posted January 8, 2021 A Danish diplomatic list circa 1914 ought to reveal the recipient. p Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Great Dane Posted January 8, 2021 Share Posted January 8, 2021 (edited) Could also be a (higher ranking) court employee. The Dannebrog order and the Dannebrog Merit Cross look to be Christian IX versions and The Royal House had family connections with Greece and Mecklenburg as well as diplomatic relations in Siam/Thailand. My homemade tool that searches for Danish Dannebrog recipients in 9 biographical tomes, 3 State- & Court calendars and 1 Who's Who couldn't flush him out though, but court employees often fly under the radar in these 'self-promotional' sources. Edited January 8, 2021 by Great Dane Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohanH Posted January 8, 2021 Share Posted January 8, 2021 5 minutes ago, Great Dane said: Could also be a (higher ranking) court employee. The Dannebrog order and the Dannebrog Merit Cross look to be Christian IX versions and The Royal House had family connections with Greece and Mecklenburg as well as diplomatic relations in Siam/Thailand. My homemade tool that searches for Danish Dannebrog recipients in 9 biographical tomes, 3 State- & Court calendars and 1 Who's Who couldn't flush him out though, but court employee often fly under the radar in these 'self-promotional' sources. What do you think about this man? Henri Carl August Glæsel Arkitekt, Inspektør og Sekretær ved Statsinventarie-Kommissionen. In the state calendar of 1912 he has the following: Knight of the Dannebrog order Dannebrog, Merit Cross (he got that in 1912) French, Legion of Honour 4th class Greece, Order of the Redeemer 4th class Mecklenburg-Schwerin, Order of the Wendish crown 3rd class Siam, Order of the crown 4th class Prussia, Order of the crown 4th class Russia, Order of St. Stanislaus 2nd class Everything fits except the Russian order. But since there is one mini missing from the chain... Would it be correct to have the St. Stanislaus after the Danish orders and before the French? For me that seems a bit strange. In the state calendar of 1915 he also has Italy, order of the crown 3rd class UK, don't know what it is (Stb.Ed.VII & A.M in the calendar) The best fit would be the coronation medal, but that was from 1902, why is it not listed earlier? Or is there any other UK medal that would fit better? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Great Dane Posted January 8, 2021 Share Posted January 8, 2021 Definitely the best fit so far ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dedehansen Posted January 9, 2021 Share Posted January 9, 2021 Hi, and the St. Stanislaus 2nd class is a neck order, so not necessary on a mini chain. Kind regards Andreas Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohanH Posted January 9, 2021 Share Posted January 9, 2021 (edited) After looking through other years of the danish state calendar without finding anyone else who fits I believe Henri Carl August Glæsel is the right guy and the missing piece is either the Russian St. Stanislaus 2nd class or the Italian order of the crown 3rd class. Henri Glæsel Born: March 19 1853 Died: July 8 1921 Edited January 9, 2021 by JohanH Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lilnuke Posted January 9, 2021 Author Share Posted January 9, 2021 37 minutes ago, JohanH said: After looking through other years of the danish state calendar without finding anyone else who fits I believe Henri Carl August Glæsel is the right guy and the missing piece is either the Russian St. Stanislaus 2nd class or the Italian order of the crown 3rd class. Henri Glæsel Born: March 19 1853 Died: July 8 1921 Gentlemen, You all never cease to amaze me with your abilities. If I read correctly, Glæsel was an architect and an inspektør og -sekretær for Statsinventarie-kommissionen. It would be interesting to know how he traveled to so many locations, I'm guessing through the royal connections? Many thanks for your help! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Great Dane Posted January 9, 2021 Share Posted January 9, 2021 Based on the Danish State- & Court Handbooks, these are the approximate dates for his awards (bear in mind, those sources may contain inaccuracies etc.): <1890: France. Legion of Honour (Knight) ~1890: Russia, St. Stanislaus (2. class) Prussia, Crown Order (4. class) ~1897: Siam, Crown Order (Officer) 1898: Denmark, Dannebrog (Knight) ~1899: Mecklenburg, Wendish Crown (Knight) ~1902: France. Legion of Honour (Officer) ~1903: Greece, Redeemer (Officer) 1912: Denmark, Dannebrog Merit Cross ~1912: Great Britain: King Edward VII's and Queen Alexandra's Medal for Arts & Science ~1914: Italy, Order of the Crown (Commander 1. class) The British medal for arts and science is identified as such in one of the biographical tomes, although it should have been abbreviated "Stb.M.of.a.& sc." in the calendar to be correct instead of "Stb.Ed.VII & A.M."... Also notice, that although he seems to progress through the classes of the Mecklenburg Wendish Crown order in the calendars (MVKr.5 -> MVKr.4 -> MVKr.3), this is just an adjustment of the class descriptions - he remains Knight of this order. Also note, that the Italian order was awarded late in his life (he dies 7 years later), so he may not have that one added to his chain. Now the big question for me is how Johan found him so quickly??? ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Great Dane Posted January 10, 2021 Share Posted January 10, 2021 A small correction: According to "Royal Service - vol. II", the "King Edward VII’s Medal for Science, Art and Music" only existed for 4 years (1902-1906) and was only awarded 12 times. Queen Alexandra awarded 3 during her visit to Copenhagen (in her native country Denmark) in 1903. One of the recipients was Glæsel. So Glæsel got that medal in 1903, but it wasn't listed in the State- and Court Calendar until 1913. Given its short lifespan, maybe no miniatures were ever made of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohanH Posted January 10, 2021 Share Posted January 10, 2021 Do you know what the medal for science, art and music looks like? I found nothing on google. I found Glæsel by a lot of luck and a little bit hard work. I made the assumption that the Wendish crown and Greek order was the most unusual and then searched through state calendars and writing down the possible matches and continued like this until there was only one possible candidate left. Without searchable state calendars I would never have found him, at least not so fast. Another of my (to many) projects is to make a excel file of all Swedes that received a Dannebrog orden. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Great Dane Posted January 10, 2021 Share Posted January 10, 2021 This is the photo from "Royal Service - vol.II". Not a very good quality (I even lightened it a lot). 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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