Chris Boonzaier Posted February 11, 2021 Share Posted February 11, 2021 HI, this Leutnant der Reserve first got a MVK 2nd class... then a MVO4th with swords... then MVO 4th with swords and crown... which is pretty unusual? I thought it was a Stuffen thing related to Rank? Why would a Lt d. Res get one with a crown? Was the rank thing put aside for exceptional bravery or something? Thanks Chris Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
laurentius Posted February 11, 2021 Share Posted February 11, 2021 17 minutes ago, Chris Boonzaier said: this Leutnant der Reserve first got a MVK 2nd class... then a MVO4th with swords... then MVO 4th with swords and crown... How do you know this? I only see one decoration in the picture. Do you have a militärpaß or perhaps some other info? That might help with answering your question. Kind regards, Laurentius Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Boonzaier Posted February 11, 2021 Author Share Posted February 11, 2021 4 minutes ago, laurentius said: How do you know this? I only see one decoration in the picture. Do you have a militärpaß or perhaps some other info? That might help with answering your question. Kind regards, Laurentius Hi, the auszug from the arhcives has EK2, EK1, MVK 2kl Swords and crown, MVO4 with swords then MVO 4 Swords and crown... KIA as a Lt d. Res... in May 1918. MVO4th with swords and crown mid 1917... no indication of why. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spolei Posted February 11, 2021 Share Posted February 11, 2021 (edited) The rank of the medal was dependent on the officers position, not the rank. Company commander, regiment commander, battalion commander, etc. In addition, with repeated awards, the higher level was awarded regardless of rank. The lower tier had to be returned if it was awarded in the same campaign Edited February 11, 2021 by spolei Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Boonzaier Posted February 11, 2021 Author Share Posted February 11, 2021 Hi, I cant look it up at the moment, but it was Hans reichenhart of the 17BRIR... he was a Komp. Führer if I remember right... Not Crown material generally speaking Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Boonzaier Posted February 11, 2021 Author Share Posted February 11, 2021 I just looked... he was a Zahlmeister Anwärter in August 1914, then to a combat company as Offizier Stellvertreter in Marche 1915.. then a simple Company Führer up until March 1917, not even Compaqny Commander... but he gor the MVO4th class with swords and crown in Feb 1917... he had no position or task that merited the higher level? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spolei Posted February 12, 2021 Share Posted February 12, 2021 One can only speculate here, as one does not know the history of the regiment. Maybe he showed a special bravery that wasn't enough for the MMJO, or he does the job of the regiment commander. For this he received another MVO award. Since he also had both EKs, he must have always been at the front. He died 1918 in action. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel Krause Posted February 12, 2021 Share Posted February 12, 2021 There were quite a lot of Lts /1st Lts who got the crown to the 4th class as additional award, despite of their position. Josef Adam Helmut Alberti Franz Albertshauser Karl Ritter von Aldebert Karl Anacker Karl Freiherr Andrian Werburg Viktor Freiherr Andrian Werburg Max Graf Armansperg Georg Ashton Louis Assn Hans Auer Hans Aulmann Walter von Axthelm ...thats just the As ? Best, Daniel 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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