v.Perlet Posted January 18, 2022 Posted January 18, 2022 Sorry gents, I just couldn't help grinning at the thought of a German Officer (in Nazi service) parading that kind of an Order. The appropriate translation I think would be simply; Kommandeurskreuz Maybe this one would be less auspicious for a German officer to wear at the time The Cruz de Comendador de Número de la Orden de la Mehdauia Regards v.Perlet 1
drspeck Posted January 18, 2022 Posted January 18, 2022 Here is a ribbon bar set attributed to Otto Ciliax showing the Mehdauia Order. Best. Peter 3
Deutschritter Posted January 18, 2022 Posted January 18, 2022 (edited) 2 hours ago, v.Perlet said: The Cruz de Comendador de Número de la Orden de la Mehdauia Regards v.Perlet Very nice picture, but I am not seeing the gold (Fajama), I would therefore say Saada (Comendador)? Here the Comendador de Número/Fajama (Großoffizier/Großkomtur): I wonder what class the third one from the right is? Edited January 18, 2022 by Deutschritter
Antonio Prieto Posted January 18, 2022 Posted January 18, 2022 Thanks to all Tou can see the categories at; https://coleccionesmilitares.com/medallas/texto/mehdauia.htm Rifaat (knight) and variant only il silver nor enamelled Litizas (Officer) Saada (commander) Fajama (Knight Commander) Bronze insignia 1
Deutschritter Posted January 18, 2022 Posted January 18, 2022 Antonio, thanks to you we have all learned a lot. One last question: On your great site you write, the imblem is that of a sunset or sundown. Spain, of course, beongs to the occident. Morocco although, being Arabic, would, at least in the German language, be identified as "orient", which we closely associate with sunrise. Also Tétouan, where the Kalif (caliph) resided, faces (towards it's harbour) the east, where the sun rose over the waters. Is sunset certain? Thank you!
Antonio Prieto Posted January 18, 2022 Posted January 18, 2022 This is what the creation order says The central part of the insignia is made up of an enameled circle, in which the sunset is represented, that is, El Mogreb, reflected in a blue-green sea. Circumscribed to this circle is a strip, also made of enamel and Prussian blue, limited by a golden border. Everything described above is enclosed in a Solomonic ring. The ribbon from which the decoration hangs is green, with a white central stripe. On the reverse, in a circle of white enamel, the following Arabic inscription reads: Muley el Mehdi Ben Ismail Ben Mohamed, may God glorify him. The plaque for Commanders and Grand Crosses (or their equivalents) is identical, with the only difference that it goes on a silver or gold disk, depending on the category, and with the same ornamentation motifs, but enlarged, without any inscription. 1
v.Perlet Posted January 19, 2022 Posted January 19, 2022 7 hours ago, drspeck said: Here is a ribbon bar set attributed to Otto Ciliax showing the Mehdauia Order. Best. Peter Ah yes, very discrete and conforming for the time, indeed? Thanks drspeck Regards v.Perlet
922F Posted January 20, 2022 Posted January 20, 2022 Thanks to v.Perlet for illustrating Ciliax' ribbon bar! Ciliax' last place second row ribbon bar award appears in sources as Hungarian Order of Merit commander class or Hungarian Order of Merit Commander with star, awarded in 1938{?}. Given the apparent silver color wings it seems commander is correct. Italian Crown a commander with possible date March, 1941. He may also have earned the Spanish Naval Order in one or two divisions, red and/or white, not presented on this bar.
v.Perlet Posted January 20, 2022 Posted January 20, 2022 The ribbon bar wasn't posted by me, but thanks to drspeck - honor to whom honor applies ? Regards v.Perlet
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