Any idea? Legion Condor?

[Chris Boonzaier]

The badge looks spanish?

Thanks

Chris

[--dj--Joe]

Badge of the Spanish Legion.

 

A rifle(musket) and a crossbow crossed over a halberd with a centered crown.

 

--dj--Joe

[Gordon Craig]

The following response was posted by Antonio on the WAF.  I have translated it to English.

PERMANENCE IN THE LEGION To see the enlarged emblems, click on the image To see a larger picture of a particular badge please click on it

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Royal circular order of November 26, 1923, order of May 6, 1938 and order 371/7812/81 of June 3
Description of the badge It will consist of the emblem of the Legion, 55 millimeters high, embroidered in gold, which will be worn on the right side of the chest. At the bottom, five millimeters apart and spaced four millimeters apart, as many red bars, two millimeters thick and the width of the emblem, will be added as many full years have remained in said bodies. For every five years, as many red bars will be replaced by one embroidered in gold, five millimeters thick, placed in the place of the first. Conditions for use 1st. One year of permanence and 20 acts of arms. 2nd. Two years of permanence and 10 acts of weapons. 3rd. Three years of permanence and five acts of arms. 4th. Being injured, becoming useless or disabled. 5th. One year of stay and injured in an armed incident. 6th. Being injured in two armed incidents. 7th. Three years of permanence. For these purposes, those in which the force that commanded during the action who aspires to the distinction has suffered casualties will be considered as acts of arms (...)
1.—The insignia of the Legion will be granted by application of any of the previous sections. 2.—There will be the right to add bars to the insignia of the Legion, regardless of the section for which application they have been granted. 3.—Notwithstanding the above, the bars whose addition is granted to badges granted by application of section 7 will be, by exception, black, and every five black bars granted must be replaced by a silver one, which may be replaced for those of red and gold if any of the other conditions are met after the granting.
6 years of permanence (sections 1 to 6)	7 years of permanence (6 years sections 1st to 6th + 1 year section 7th)	12 years of permanence (6 years sections 1st to 6th + 6 years section 7th)	5 years of permanence (section 7)

[Farkas]

On 06/10/2023 at 17:40, --dj--Joe said:

Badge of the Spanish Legion.

 

A rifle(musket) and a crossbow crossed over a halberd with a centered crown.

 

--dj--Joe

 

I was thinking French at first but i agree it must be the Spanish Legion. 👍

 

6 hours ago, Gordon Craig said:

The following response was posted by Antonio on the WAF.  I have translated it to English.

PERMANENCE IN THE LEGION To see the enlarged emblems, click on the image To see a larger picture of a particular badge please click on it

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Royal circular order of November 26, 1923, order of May 6, 1938 and order 371/7812/81 of June 3
Description of the badge It will consist of the emblem of the Legion, 55 millimeters high, embroidered in gold, which will be worn on the right side of the chest. At the bottom, five millimeters apart and spaced four millimeters apart, as many red bars, two millimeters thick and the width of the emblem, will be added as many full years have remained in said bodies. For every five years, as many red bars will be replaced by one embroidered in gold, five millimeters thick, placed in the place of the first. Conditions for use 1st. One year of permanence and 20 acts of arms. 2nd. Two years of permanence and 10 acts of weapons. 3rd. Three years of permanence and five acts of arms. 4th. Being injured, becoming useless or disabled. 5th. One year of stay and injured in an armed incident. 6th. Being injured in two armed incidents. 7th. Three years of permanence. For these purposes, those in which the force that commanded during the action who aspires to the distinction has suffered casualties will be considered as acts of arms (...)
1.—The insignia of the Legion will be granted by application of any of the previous sections. 2.—There will be the right to add bars to the insignia of the Legion, regardless of the section for which application they have been granted. 3.—Notwithstanding the above, the bars whose addition is granted to badges granted by application of section 7 will be, by exception, black, and every five black bars granted must be replaced by a silver one, which may be replaced for those of red and gold if any of the other conditions are met after the granting.
6 years of permanence (sections 1 to 6)	7 years of permanence (6 years sections 1st to 6th + 1 year section 7th)	12 years of permanence (6 years sections 1st to 6th + 6 years section 7th)	5 years of permanence (section 7)

 

In Gordons information it says the badge is to be worn on the right side but the man pictured has it on his left...

 

I can’t find anything like those unusual looking inverted chevrons, they were the reason i thought French, now i’m assuming wound stripes not rank or service stripes... However to me, recognition of wounds and service seems to be covered in the regulations by the addition of the bars under the badge.

The badge worn is rough looking, maybe an unofficial version and lastly the Swastika badge wasn’t regulation.

 

So I wonder if this is a foreign volunteer serving outside of the official Spanish legion? and/or the picture taken in a period before the above regulations?

 

An interesting picture no doubt.

 

tony 🍻🍻

 

 

 

[Antonio Prieto]

Yes, the angles (chevrons) of the left sleeve would correspond to the badge of "injured in campaign" created in August 1922: Angle formed by a five millimeter red gallon, whose sides have and eighty millimeters in length, and the vertex up. It is repeated in the same way and in parallel to the first, with separation of two millimeters as many times as in armed events they were injured

The golden gallon is regulated in April 1939, but in units such as the legion it was previously

 

[Antonio Prieto]

Also known as "raspas" "scraps?", similar to sardines thorns

[Chris Boonzaier]

The little swastika is very similar to the one worn on the cap in some Legion Condor Photos?

[Farkas]

17 hours ago, Chris Boonzaier said:

The little swastika is very similar to the one worn on the cap in some Legion Condor Photos?

 

In the pic below it does look like there are 2 separate parts & I can’t make out any surround to the swastika badge in the original photo, both of which support ☝️

 

 

tony 🍻

[Graf]

On 10/10/2023 at 10:43, Farkas said:

 

In the pic below it does look like there are 2 separate parts & I can’t make out any surround to the swastika badge in the original photo, both of which support ☝️

 

 

tony 🍻

Nice items Tony