VtwinVince Posted March 31 Share Posted March 31 Pretty interesting bar, just too bad about the condition of the White Falcon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stogieman Posted March 31 Author Share Posted March 31 This rather simple Saxon Bar brought 830- Euro! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stogieman Posted March 31 Author Share Posted March 31 Wasn’t really sure about this one but everything else they had looked correct Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VtwinVince Posted March 31 Share Posted March 31 I'm not sure what was going on with that Saxon bar Rick, nothing particularly scarce and a ridiculous price. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stogieman Posted March 31 Author Share Posted March 31 I agree, a mounted Ehrenkreuz is unusual but certainly not a rare piece. The other three are pretty common. A nice bar but that’s a ridiculous price IMO! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stogieman Posted April 8 Author Share Posted April 8 This showed up yesterday, didn’t last the night! Asking was $2500. Sold for best offer, amount unknown. Beautiful and scarce item! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stogieman Posted April 8 Author Share Posted April 8 On 30/03/2024 at 18:05, VtwinVince said: This cool restoration project is on German fleabay, and is ID'able. Final bid, $4726!! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VtwinVince Posted April 8 Share Posted April 8 Yup, completely insane price when you take in to account the damage to the White Falcon and the fact that the bar needs restoration and will therefore be messed with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lew Posted April 10 Share Posted April 10 On 30/03/2024 at 20:01, lew said: What a shame. Sad to see a nice bar being torn apart. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lew Posted April 26 Share Posted April 26 --- ------- ---- ------- -------- ----- -------- ------ Small grouping --------- Highlight A large Lippe Detmold grouping ----- Highlight Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Komtur Posted April 26 Share Posted April 26 (edited) On 09/04/2024 at 00:29, VtwinVince said: Yup, completely insane price when you take in to account the damage to the White Falcon and the fact that the bar needs restoration and will therefore be messed with. I don´t think so, because I´ve never seen one of the 25 for 1870/71 awarded knights 1st class of the White Falcon on an authentic medal bar. Beside this I only know one other bar with the absolutely scarce XX years service cross of Saxe-Weimar. Taken additionally the current marked pices of an 1870 Iron Cross 2nd class with Oak Leaves and a Red Eagle Order 4th class with smooth arms in perfect condition, the price ot that medal bar (+ ribbon bar!) wasn´t "insane" at all. In the end for me it was a singular chance and I am sure, that such a combination will not come across again for years. In a price catalogue IMHO it should get a *star* for "fancy price". And yes, I messed with it 😱 Edited April 26 by Komtur 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VtwinVince Posted April 26 Share Posted April 26 Komtur, I agree that this combination is extremely scarce, my problem is that the Falke is damaged and the bar technically is now 'befummelt'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bernd_W Posted April 26 Share Posted April 26 Befummelt is something happening at the Domplatte at 31.12. This bar ist just restored. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VtwinVince Posted April 27 Share Posted April 27 Restored, befummelt.....you want to argue about semantics now? This Schnalle has been altered, period. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bernd_W Posted April 27 Share Posted April 27 (edited) It was more like a joke about the word you choose. But, I dont get the point. IMO the Schnalle is now, how it was while being onto Mr. Schillings chest. Isn't it? If the damaged white falcon was also changes I would understand your concerns, but dont look like. Edited April 28 by Bernd_W Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VtwinVince Posted April 27 Share Posted April 27 As soon as you swap or replace medals on a bar, it's altered. That massively affects value. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bernd_W Posted April 28 Share Posted April 28 Well, thats your Opinion. Also in most cases you will never know, so value wont be affected. AFAIK restoring in this way is not deprecated in the collectors community. Might be something different when you change an award because its damaged, or there is a ribbon which was used for several awards and you replace the award to one in your opinion more fitting one without any ranklist indication or you took a damaged award to a jeweler or a dentist lab and its repaired looking like a period work. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stogieman Posted April 30 Author Share Posted April 30 This little gem popped up in Germany! Only the second one I’ve ever seen! Final bid was $600. A very scarce medal! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stogieman Posted May 2 Author Share Posted May 2 I was unsure on this one but will add it here. I liked it but will invite comments/discussion on the bar. Unfortunately, no good picture of the back of the bar. It sold on eBay.de for $967 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VtwinVince Posted May 2 Share Posted May 2 That's a Schraegstich Faker special Rick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stogieman Posted May 3 Author Share Posted May 3 Well, I did consider that, but it wasn’t from the usual seller Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wild Card Posted May 5 Share Posted May 5 On 02/05/2024 at 18:32, VtwinVince said: That's a Schraegstich Faker special Rick. Which would likely explain why, at least in part, there is no picture of the reverse. You know how they are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VtwinVince Posted May 5 Share Posted May 5 Right, and that one has the 'funky chicken' eagle on the RAO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stogieman Posted May 6 Author Share Posted May 6 Sorry guys, as I said, I was unsure on this one. I almost bid but I’ve learned not to ignore that little bell that rings sometimes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VtwinVince Posted May 6 Share Posted May 6 Glad you didn't throw any money down the proverbial toilet. Lots of experienced collectors are finding out the hard way. I had a guy want to authenticate a Prussian air gunner badge. It was a good fake. I told him, and he didn't want to hear it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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