Albania Order of Skanderbeg numbered ?!

[gor]

3 class,silver, from the Yugoslavian mint. It's not small number,what do you think about it Eric ?

Edited June 25, 2006 by gor

[gor]

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[Eric Schena]

I have NEVER seen or heard of numbered Albanian awards of any sort - that's a stunner. Plus, it has the typical IKOM silver mark. That's a heck of a find! I may have to contact you about that scan

That's the great thing about forums like this - scarcely 2 years ago, absolutely nothing was known about these things and now there are all sorts of varieties being discovered. Great stuff!

Cheers,

Eric

[Bob]

Gentlemen,

Major source of information on medals from Albania has indicated that it is possible to find out through research the names of people awarded these numbered Skanderbeg but no further research likely (for the moment) in archives due to sensitive nature as a result of the fact that people awarded these are still alive (and so are their anti-communist enemies).

This is a major breakthrough in Albanian awards and offers tantalizing prospects for future archival research.

In the meantime, this obviously also raises questions... are there also numbered first/second class Skanderbeg's?

Current standing of numbered 3rd class:

- highest number seen 802

- lowest number seen 378

[Bob]

Will provide scans of 2 in my possession tomorrow.

Nr 378 = 36.7 grams +7.5 grams for screw

Nr 630 = 37.0 grams +7.8 grams for screw

The mintmarks appear to be located in different spots although that may just be insignificant.

Will post scans + also dimensions of them tomorrow. Will try to make detailed scan of mintmark.

[Bob]

To add to this:

- 378: screw plate 23.25mm diameter

- 630: idem 24.10mm

So different screwplates (also font size of letters and some minor details). Notice also (on next pic) that the mintmark is on different spots: 12 'o clock / 14:00 'o clock

Anyway, getting into details. Attached pics.

Edited June 3, 2007 by Bob

[Bob]

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[Eric Schena]

Hi Bob:

These are lovely examples. I have been trying to get a numbered IKOM Skanderbeg for quite some time, but keep getting outbid.

Cheers,

Eric

[Bob]

There's a buy it now one in eBay right now!

[Bob]

a silver second class IKOM (unnumbered) was sold on eBay last week - first time I've seen one

[Bob]

Just in, nr 423 and nr 915

That puts

- highest number seen 915

- lowest number seen 378

No need to post pics I guess. Continues to support believe by some that max 1.000 of these numbered Skanderbegs were produced/issues.

[Zaim Qyteza]

Just in, nr 423 and nr 915

That puts

- highest number seen 915

- lowest number seen 378

No need to post pics I guess. Continues to support believe by some that max 1.000 of these numbered Skanderbegs were produced/issues.

Hi all,

Here attach one of my exemplares.

Artan

[albania]

I have noticed that numbered third class scanderbeg have three different size numbers. I have now the two exemplars in the photos that have different size numbers and both are smaller than the ones portrayed here. Apparently the numbers were stricken not during production but after someone was awarded, connecting once again the numbers to specific receivers of these awards. One more argument to this assumption is the fact that we have found also exemplars of this order by IKOM solid silver unnumbered.

http://www.albaniancorner.com

[Kallarati Heroik]

On 5/18/2007, 5:51:17, Bob said:

Gentlemen,

 

Major source of information on medals from Albania has indicated that it is possible to find out through research the names of people awarded these numbered Skanderbeg but no further research likely (for the moment) in archives due to sensitive nature as a result of the fact that people awarded these are still alive (and so are their anti-communist enemies).

 

This is a major breakthrough in Albanian awards and offers tantalizing prospects for future archival research.

 

In the meantime, this obviously also raises questions... are there also numbered first/second class Skanderbeg's?

 

Current standing of numbered 3rd class:

- highest number seen 802

- lowest number seen 378

HELLO BOB. MY EXEMPLAR IS NUMBERED 376, SEE IT IN THE PHOTO. IT IS IN NEW CONDITION.

[Kallarati Heroik]

ORDER OF SCANDERBEG

1 CLASS

IKOM ZAGREB

SOLID SILVER

IT BELONG TO A DEALER FROM ISRAEL.

[Kallarati Heroik]

So different screwplates (also font size of letters and some minor details).

TODAY I COMPLETED THE SET OF 2 TYPES OF 3rd CLASS ORDER OF SCANDERBEG WITH DIFFERENT FONT SIZE.

ALSO, THEY HAVE DIFFERENT WEIGHT OF SILVER.

ALSO, THEY HAVE DIFFERENT SCREWPLATES DIAMETER.

Edited May 10, 2016 by Kallarati Heroik

[Kallarati Heroik]

NEW IN MY COLLECTION.

ALBANIA ORDER OF SCANDERBEG 3rd CLASS IKOM ZAGREB.

NUMBER 115.

ONE OF THE FIRST GROUP GIVEN.

WITH NUMBER IS NOT LISTED IN LAME ALBUM.

RRRRR

[Kallarati Heroik]

[Zaim Qyteza]

Hi all,

A super rare piece. A Scanderbeg order, II class, silver , IKOM, numbered (181).

This variant also miss in my book (ALBANIAN MEDALS II) !!!

Regards,

A.

 

[Zaim Qyteza]

This is the new complete table of the variants of SKANDERBEG order.

A.

[Kallarati Heroik]

ARTAN, te mungon edhe ky varianti im ne foto. Ti te albumi e ke pa numer, kurse ky eshte me numer. Te pershendes.

[Kallarati Heroik]

The highest number of order of scanderbeg 3rd class numbered is 1114.

This piece is sold years ago from ALBANIAN CORNER SHOP.

You can find it at WORTHPOINT.

REGARDS.

[Kallarati Heroik]

Order of Skanderbeg, 3rd Class, IKOM ZAGREB.
1st Variant (Whithout Serial).
My Collection.

[Kallarati Heroik]

Number 509

3rd class

I need a screw in big size.