GRA Posted March 31, 2012 Posted March 31, 2012 Some of my Bundeswehr unit patches, all dating from the 1990's to the very early 2000's. Please feel free to add to the thread! /Jonas Corps etc 1 Zentrale Militärische Bundeswehrdienststellen 2 WehrbereichskommandoII 3 WehrbereichskommandoVIII 4 Korps u. Territorialkommando Ost 5 Territorialkommando Schleswig-Holstein 6 I.Korps 7 Deutsch-Nederländisches Korps (German part) 8 Eurokorps
GRA Posted March 31, 2012 Author Posted March 31, 2012 Divisions 1 1.Panzerdivision 2 5.Panzerdivision / Wehrbereichskommando IV/5.Panzerdivision 3 6.Panzergrenadierdivision / Wehrbereichskommando I 4 10.Panzerdivision 5 11.Panzergrenadierdivision 6 12.Panzerdivision / Panzerbrigade34 7 13.Panzergrenadierdivision (old version) / Wehrbereichskommando VII/13.Panzergrenadierdivision 8 14.Panzergrenadierdivision / WehrbereichskommandoVIII/14.Panzergrenadierdivision ”Hanse” 9 1.Luftlandedivision / Kommando Spezialkräfte
GRA Posted March 31, 2012 Author Posted March 31, 2012 6.Panzergrenadierdivision 1 6.Panzergrenadierdivision / Wehrbereichskommando I 2 Panzergrenadierbrigade16 ”Herzogtum Lauenburg” (1st brigade) 3 Panzerbrigade18 ”Holstein” (3rd brigade, old manufacture) 4 Panzerbrigade18 ”Holstein” (3rd brigade, new manufacture)
GRA Posted March 31, 2012 Author Posted March 31, 2012 Brigades 1 1 Panzergrenadierbrigade5 ”Kurhessen” 2 Panzerbrigade8 ”Lüneburg” 3 Panzerbrigade12 ”Oberpfalz” 4 Panzergrenadierbrigade19 ”Münsterland” 5 Heimatschutzbrigade51
GRA Posted March 31, 2012 Author Posted March 31, 2012 Brigades 2 1 Heimatschutzbrigade37 / Jägerbrigade37 / Panzergrenadierbrigade37 ”Freistaat Sachsen” 2 Heimatschutzbrigade38 / Panzergrenadierbrigade38 ”Sachsen-Anhalt” 3 Heimatschutzbrigade40 / Panzergrenadierbrigade40 4 Heimatschutzbrigade41 / Panzergrenadierbrigade41 ”Vorpommern” 5 Heimatschutzbrigade42 / Panzerbrigade42 ”Brandenburg” 6 Deutsch-Französische Brigade
GRA Posted March 31, 2012 Author Posted March 31, 2012 Company patches 1 3./PzGrenBtl72 7./PzGrenBtl72,UL - NCO school 4./PzGrenBtl421
GRA Posted March 31, 2012 Author Posted March 31, 2012 (edited) Company patches 2 3./PzBtl183 StKp/PiBrig80 (both with velcro backing) Edited March 31, 2012 by GRA
Gordon Craig Posted March 31, 2012 Posted March 31, 2012 GRA, Nice example of some of the arm badges worn in the BW. For those who haven't studied this subject, there were strict rules about what could go where on the shield. In the regulations, the shiled is divided up intoto numerous sections with a list of what can go in that sector. The higher grade badges must be authorized by the highest authority. Individual units arm badges may be authorized by the CO, usually a General officer, but must still abide by the established regulations. That being said, reserve units took "libetties" with their design and even wore them on combat clothing which was strictly against the regs. Regards, Gordon
GRA Posted March 31, 2012 Author Posted March 31, 2012 GRA, Nice example of some of the arm badges worn in the BW. For those who haven't studied this subject, there were strict rules about what could go where on the shield. In the regulations, the shiled is divided up intoto numerous sections with a list of what can go in that sector. The higher grade badges must be authorized by the highest authority. Individual units arm badges may be authorized by the CO, usually a General officer, but must still abide by the established regulations. That being said, reserve units took "libetties" with their design and even wore them on combat clothing which was strictly against the regs. Regards, Gordon I'm not surprised, those patches intended for the dress uniform seems to be "strictly heraldic", but the patches intended for the field uniform on the other hand are more "relaxed". I've personally seen the 7./PzGrenBtl72 patch being worn on the old BW field uniform, and I think they were smart when designing it, because that patch is more or less a copy of the dress uniform unit badge (to my knowledge, this was no reserve battalion). I'm quite certain that there was a general's approval involved in the Pionier patch, at least a silent approval. As a brigade HQ Coy they would probably have seen more than their share of colonels and generals. /Jonas
Guest talltom Posted March 31, 2012 Posted March 31, 2012 jonas fantastic pictures thanks for sharing heres a quick shot of a panzergrenadier patch set early and late (the early is the one with black thread around outside)
GRA Posted March 31, 2012 Author Posted March 31, 2012 jonas fantastic pictures thanks for sharing heres a quick shot of a panzergrenadier patch set early and late (the early is the one with black thread around outside) Thanks Tom! I found a metal embroidered version of the 1.Panzerdivision patch in the stash, here it is next to its more common brother. Your white-bordered patch seems to be Panzergrenadierbrigade 1 or Panzerlehrbrigade 9, depending on when it was used (when PzGrenBrig1 was disbanded, PzLehrBrig9 inherited the patch). The division patch is the striped border version. Striped border - division White border - 1st brigade of the division Red border - 2nd brigade of the division Yellow border - 3rd brigade of the division /Jonas
GRA Posted March 31, 2012 Author Posted March 31, 2012 11.Panzergrenadierdivision (striped border) and Panzergrenadierbrigade 32 (red border).
Guest talltom Posted April 1, 2012 Posted April 1, 2012 Thanks Tom! I found a metal embroidered version of the 1.Panzerdivision patch in the stash, here it is next to its more common brother. Your white-bordered patch seems to be Panzergrenadierbrigade 1 or Panzerlehrbrigade 9, depending on when it was used (when PzGrenBrig1 was disbanded, PzLehrBrig9 inherited the patch). The division patch is the striped border version. Striped border - division White border - 1st brigade of the division Red border - 2nd brigade of the division Yellow border - 3rd brigade of the division /Jonas fantastic info Jonas this really is a brilliant thead learning a lot tom
speedytop Posted April 1, 2012 Posted April 1, 2012 Hi, Silvery (striped) border - division White border - 1st brigade of the division Red border - 2nd brigade of the division Yellow border - 3rd brigade of the division German text "silberfarbene Umrandung" > silvery border white-red-yellow is in German weiß-rot-gelb, to remember for us with the mnemonic command (Merkwort) wir rauchen gerne Uwe
GRA Posted April 1, 2012 Author Posted April 1, 2012 Hello Uwe! Thanks for a further explanation as to the borders! Were the metal-emboidered patches (obviously private purchase, or?) intended for and allowed to wear by all ranks, or were they strictly officers use only? /Jonas
speedytop Posted April 1, 2012 Posted April 1, 2012 Hi Jonas, yes, they are private bought, everybody could wear them. And you can often find officers and generals with the simple unit patch on their daily used jackets. Uwe
GRA Posted April 1, 2012 Author Posted April 1, 2012 Hi Jonas, yes, they are private bought, everybody could wear them. And you can often find officers and generals with the simple unit patch on their daily used jackets. Uwe Thanks again Uwe! I actually expected them to be "officers only", as I can't recall ever having seen one being worn back in the mid-90's to early 2000's when I used to run into Reservists and the occasional serving soldier from time to time (surprisingly, as my friend often had his own ideas about dress regulations etc, I'd have expected him to wear one, maybe they weren't available for his division?). One learns something new every day! /Jonas
Gordon Craig Posted April 1, 2012 Posted April 1, 2012 GRA, Normally, when you find a tunic with the private purchase, metallic embroiderd arm badge you will find that the owner has also purchased special shoulder boards. Makes a very smart looking tunic. Regards, Gordon
GRA Posted April 1, 2012 Author Posted April 1, 2012 GRA, Normally, when you find a tunic with the private purchase, metallic embroiderd arm badge you will find that the owner has also purchased special shoulder boards. Makes a very smart looking tunic. Regards, Gordon I believe you Gordon. I remember seeing some of these custom-made qualification badges at a civvy street tailor in Kiel some 15 years ago, it was obviously mostly naval badges in the window, but if I recall correctly, there was one or two army badges too. I also remember that they didn't come for free! /Jonas
Elvis Posted November 12, 2012 Posted November 12, 2012 Hello to all, is somebody interested to swap: I have ALL modern "unit patches" and like to swap "US ribbon bars, miniatures and medal decorations". I really have the lastest things "european battlegroup" "Nato response force" and a lot more.
aubagne98 Posted April 15, 2013 Posted April 15, 2013 (edited) Hi, here is my collection. It is old, I haven´t added any patches since more than 20 years. Edited April 15, 2013 by aubagne98
speedytop Posted April 15, 2013 Posted April 15, 2013 (edited) Hi aubagne98, very nice, but I miss this patch in the second picture: The three patches of the Panzerregimenter 100, 200 and 300 are hard to find. Uwe Edited April 17, 2013 by speedytop
Chris Boonzaier Posted April 17, 2013 Posted April 17, 2013 So... enlighten me... whats special about that one??
speedytop Posted April 17, 2013 Posted April 17, 2013 Chris, it was a short episode of these regiments in the Bundeswehr from 1970 to 1975. Panzerregiment 300 never existed. I have 2 documents showing problems in the responsibilities for Panzerregiment 100, and I have, additional to the three patches, a cased medal of Panzerregiment 100, remembering the date of the foundation, 25.3.1970. Please have a look on "Regimenter": http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liste_der_Panzerverb%C3%A4nde_der_Bundeswehr Uwe
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