Auseklis

Another mystery item from a field in Germany

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Dear fellow collectors,

Once again a field in Germany provided an item, nobody in my German forum has seen before.

Obviously of Ottoman Turkish origin, but what is it?

Thanks for your help!

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I recived the item today. It is made of thin brass, very nicely done. Even if it is not military (but it looks sort of offical to me), I would be glad, if someone could translate the inscription.

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ID: 3   Posted (edited)

Wen das osmanisch ist und dan noch jemanden findest der das übersetzt ist das mehr als ein sech richtiger;). den es gibt nur noch eine hand voll mensche die diese lesen können.

Mfg Ata

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ID: 4   Posted (edited)

Und wen mann das mal nur ein bisschen genauer anschaut sieht man das unten alles spiegel verkärt stehet. ich glaub nicht das das ein sin ergibt und wen doch nur auf einer seite.

Mfg Ata

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ID: 5   Posted (edited)

The tughras at the top are interesting. Demir can translate it and I reckon it's a horse brass/ award. the tughras as will tell the era. I'll ask Demir.

Edited by Ulsterman

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I can provide better pictures if needed. By the size I was thinking about something horse related too. I hope Demir can help!

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ID: 7   Posted (edited)

I posted the item in my Ottoman medals and articles page and waiting for an answer.

Regards

Demir

My websites:

The Turkish War medal and everything about Canakkale (Gallipoli): https://www.facebook.com/groups/harpmadalyasi/

The Ottoman medals and articles etc: https://www.facebook.com/groups/osmanlimadalyalari/

Korean War medals : https://www.facebook.com/groups/koremadalyasi/

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ID: 9   Posted (edited)

Hi,

It is same both sides but don't know what it is.

Ottoman: Nefer

Turkish: Asker, er

English: Private, soldier

Regards

Demir

Edited by demir

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What a cool thing to find in the field. Could it be a hilt of a sword of some sort?

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The point is how did it end up in Germany?

A German soldier fighting the British in the Ottoman soil took it home and lost it while working on the field.

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How big is it? Any chance it's a fez badge?

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ID: 13   Posted (edited)

The point is how did it end up in Germany?

A German soldier fighting the British in the Ottoman soil took it home and lost it while working on the field.

Thanks for helping with the translation, Demir!

It is from a field near Berge (Nauen), were during WW1 a POW camp for russians was located. The POWs were employed to disperse the houshold garbage from Berlin on the surrounding fields. Houshold garbage back than was 80% organic waste, so it made sense to try use it as fertilizer. This continued until the late 1920s. Many smaler metal objects turn up there.

I had another item from this region up for identification here:

http://gmic.co.uk/index.php/topic/59792-stgeorgeish-looking-cross-what-is-it/

Edited by Auseklis

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Hi Ata,

If've seen it on Facebook already. Thanks again! Great work. One might think this is a 1920s Rudolph Valentino related "arab romantic" bijoux belt buckle.

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Dank dir!!!
Ich will nicht wissen, was hinter diesem Stück noch an Geschichte steckt.
Weil auch es als Bodenfund aus unserer Rigion kommt.

Thanks to you!
I do not know what is still to story behind this piece.
Because it also as a floor Fund comes from our rigion.



Mfg Ata

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ID: 17   Posted (edited)

Who knows, maybe one Russian soldier visited Turkey etc and obtained this piece as a souvenir?

Have you tried something like Belt buckle, it has a similar look.

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