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The bar started it's "life" with three awards on it, and was made bigger in 1934/35 for the Hindenburg cross. The EK used to be where this one is now.

Impressive complete group, thanks!

The bar tries to suggest to be from China era, pre-WW1. Makes it even worse. I do not even like the bar.

The combination is not impossible, e.g. for a (Non-Bavarian) Navy officer, still I do not like this bar.

Looks like the Saxon star he's wearing.

The EK on 2nd bar does not look good, but larger pictures would be of help.

First medal bar is likely a good one, but medals wrong replaced. Last ribbon is for Bavarian Luitpold medal, and the bar would make much more sense with this, plus a MVK instead of the MVO. EM Hess? This medal was awarded to all ranks, I even got a document for a General. ;)

Lovely, but I fear a bit to "thin" to identify. We're looking for a Prussian officer, liely Hauptmann, who wasn't yet in service in March 1897, got no Prussian order but won a SA3aX in WW1... alive in 1934... mhh... probably an unique combination, problem is to find him.

Reduced size? Have you ever seen a larger Kriegerverdienstmedaille?!

The bar does not look bad.

Mike, the device is not supposed to be there, but... strange things happened. Might one see the whole bar? There are many fakes out there, especially using rare devices.

This is Schaumburg merit medal ribbon. Impossible to tell if someone used it for something edifferent, but I wonder why. A double of silver and gold garde merit medal was awarded maybe to a dozen persons, I guess. Rick would know...

Seeheld, I backed this up before. While Jewish Kantors are actually called chasanim, they might be referred to as Kantors, too. So this doesn't proof anything... http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kantor But actually, it doesn't matter that much after all. :whistle:

I hardly doubt you can recognize someone's religion by his name... though, thanks! :sleep:

Lovely complete group! I cannot prove but think that most were awarded as doubles. Any picture I've seen by know that shows the cross in wear, shows as well the medal, as do some double mounted ribbons I've seen. But how do you know she was Jewish? Her husband was a Kantor, which could be from any Religion...

I take one of each! I wasn't born even in early 80s but know that this was much money back in 40s/50s, and not to many had it to spend for "old coins and crosses". Did anyone notice the standard stuff we can buy every week did develop quite different than the extremely scarce stuff? I'd rather buy a Bavarian bravery medal for US $3.- than a Baden Felddienstauszeichnung with one clasp for US $2.50! Rare stuff gets more and more expensive while the common things actually cannot. They are yet expensive.

The Bavarian MVO rolls are worked on. But - how can this guy then be identified? There were, at least, dozens of Austrians to receive this order, if not hundereds. I have no idea if it will work... Sometimes it just takes patience in this hobby. :sleep:

I think the same, looks like 50s to 70s.

Wasn't the Heinrich for acts of especial bravery, while Albrechts were given for more common bravery, and Verdienstorden as well, after someone yet had an Albrecht?

A most lovely group. Any the best 1st issue MVK I'Ve ever seen!

Nice, but unidentifiable bar. Precedence is right for post-March 1938.

I think a Russian award (but there migth match several)is most likely here. The long service award is a Dienstehrenzeichen 2nd class, awarded to NCOs for 21 years of service. Here with "K" for King Karl as awarded between 1864 and 1891. That's a scarce one!

Not to uncommon for a Prussian officer: no pre-war order (KO4 not given routinely to active officers, to young for a RAO4), no HOH3X in WW1 (as those were not given out like candy). Maybe Bavarians felt pity with him, to give him their MVO. With the Bavarian ribbon with silver swords, impossible to be a high rank with all orders on the neck. More likely a Hauptmann, or an old Oberleutnant - he has not even a long service award! Possibly a Baden native in a non-Baden unit, therefore with jubilee medal but never saw a Zähringer... poor guy but still a nice bar! ;)

Ah, now in Dublin? Okay... nice bar! I'd leave this Pfennig on it. It's been there for some or many years, maybe even from WW1 on when one though Russian awards are not that pretty anymore. ;o)

I think it is WW1 era or close to it, to a Prussian officer. Nice one!