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IMHO Sergio, I'm not very confident about these badges. What do others think of them?

Actually, it is only 120k. I can only suggest to change the setting on your camera from High Resolution (High pixel count) to a lower setting. Yes, you will lose some quality, but you have to compensate by taking many close-ups with great lighting. Ultimately, if someone is interested I would whoops, I mean "we" will ask for more photos, along with weights, measures and sound (????? -real St. George crosses have an distintive sound when dropped lightly on a table top)

That is not a problem Christian. I know you will keep looking for the next bar with a 1912 Olympic medal on it. ------ Does anyone have a 1912 Olympic medal to a known recipient? Either separate or on a medal bar (doesn't have to be a German medal bar).

Ah, good. PM sent. Might need the help from someone who knows WORLD-WIDE ribbons to see any other possible matches. Thank you for the link. I wish I could read Swedish!

I don't think those are strange left sleeves. On both men I think I think I can see the top edge of what would be an arm band. I think those are arm bands, in the same color, or at least in a color that shows up as the same color as the uniform. If there are any markings on them, it is facing away from the camera.

Hallo Christer; I am not angry at the person who won it..Honestly. I just wanted to own it to do more research on WHO the medal bar belonged to. If I didn't win it, I was hoping that the winner of the medal bar would post his photos on GMIC and discuss his observations. It was interesting that it also had the Sweden Vasa Order, however the points were badly banged up. I lowered my bid amount considering the damaged Vasa. However the Romanian Order looked great and also adds to the mystery. Back to your ribbon bar: Is it possible the yellow ribbon on the end is NOT the 1897 Centennial Medal? There may be other medals that could have that ribbon. As you mentioned, the German medal after the foreign medal is a bit odd. Consider also, that if he earned the Centennial medal and was around to earn the Hindenburg Cross he was old when this ribbon bar was constructed for him and likely no longer in the service. Often medal bars are constructed for active and retired gents to wear on special occasions. Ribbon bars were made so that they can be worn on their field tunics during active wear. As I said, he would be retired by then.

That is correct. It is not, as initially thought, the Gold, Silver or Bronze medals for placing in a competition in the Olympics, but are rather for helping with the Olympics. I did some research on the 1912 Olympic medal when I found a German medal bar on e-Bray that had the award. I did not win the medal bar. Among information on the medal itself, I found a list of "helpers" and listed by country. They were the likely recipients of this special medal. I will try to find it...if it isn't too torn up after not winning the medal bar. I would have been consoled if someone from this forum won it, but no one here confessed that they did.

No problem. China Service Medal(bronze?) and the Centennial Medal. BTW: Note how DARK the otherwise bright yellow Centennial Medal ribbon looks in this B/W photo.

WAIT A MINUTE....i thought you were "running to the hospital with your wife" just 8 hours ago? I half expected that the "My today's find" was going to be a different kind of "bundle" altogether. Although, I wouldn't understand how that would make it on the Russian thread. (unless it was a Russian hospital?)

It is noted how the frack medal bar and ribbon bar differ. I love how the pre-1934 medal bar is frack with ALL of the Saxon award ahead of the EK2, but the post-1934 ribbon bar is EK2 in front. (all very period and conforms with known construction techniques) Anyone else enjoy that show of Saxon pride, and later conformity to national rules of precedence? I think that is really COOL!

Indeed, barzda is quite correct about needing large, good-quality photos. There are a lot of fakes out there. Barzda isn't the only one interested in what you have to sell.

Does anyone have a link to what Ernst Blass had in his collection...as quick taste of what he has?

Great cross Christophe! Next to the other classes it looks SUPERB.

<<<Sorry for the late response>>>> Thank you Paul and Barzda for your responses. I already had a bad feeling about the medal but wasn't sure if it was based on paranoia or past experience. I was looking for some advice and you were both instrumental in providing that guidance. Thank you. I will act accordingly.

Hello Chip; Those are some great patches. No, I don't usually collect rank insiginia. (I'm already into too many things) But I think they are a great area to collect. There are many distintive and varied insigina for the different trades. I would encourage others to post their patches on this thread. They can be stand alone or still attached to a uniform sleeve.

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anybody??? I know it's not a great photo and I don't have close-ups but has anyone seen the better fakes out there, and does this look like one of them?

Great job. Thank you for research and work you did to get this off the ground.

wow! ...and someone bought it for that much?!?!

nope...but it looks really good.

close-up of sleeve

With this information, we can deduce the thread color for this gent in the B&W photo. It is known that the man’s name is Willy Furstenberg. He was a Feldwebel in the 1st Kompanie, der Matrosen Artillerie-Abteilung Kiatschou. Stationed in Tsingtau, China at the start of the war, he was captured and POW’ed in Japan at the Kukuoka and later the Narashiro camps. He returned to Berlin in December 1919. As a sailor in the MAK-station Kiatschou he would have had a YELLOW thread patch

yellow...reverse

yellow

red...reverse