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My apologies if I have offended anyone. Clearly we have divergent opinions regarding this subject. David, Thanks for correcting my words, clearly "bid-rigging" is the concept I was discussing. So there we have it, an Attorney has stated that since you "do not control the entire process" you're not breaking the law. But then, neither is Herr Thies, is he? It's always good to check with an attorney as they are able to differentiate clearly for all of us the difference between "moral" and "legal".... Claudio, I cannot think of any piece, group or bar of yours that I have ever condemned. Any comments ever made on an item in your collection would have been made regarding the item, not you personally. In addition Claudio, I have no clue what you mean by the phrase "but in your case is not the first time that you attack me directly"... What on earth are you talking about???? Again, my apologies if I have offended anyone with my statements.
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I don't know WC, We've all been at this for a long time. To me, it's a dichotomy of positions to on one hand imply that Theis is an idiot, unscrupulous, immoral when on the other hand we are guilty of crime(s) as well. We're getting into a difficult area here. Who has the moral higher ground? The person who refuses to do anything that they feel is immoral, or illegal; or is it the person who performs the immoral and/or illegal act with the intent of correcting someone else's failing? Do two wrongs now make a right? Does the moral obligation that (most) of us feel preclude our judgement of right and wrong? My personal feelings are irrelevent, everyone knows the time, money and effort (as well as frustration) I've gone through to reunite broken groups. But where do we draw the line? The lesser of evil? For if evil is justified in the pursuit of a higher goal, than instead of discussing bid collusion publicly we should be discussing how we are going to steal everything back from all the scattered owners, auction houses, museums and countries for the express purpous of reuniting this history, this collection back to where it was intended to be by the original owner. Where do we draw the line? The little wrong is right? I am (almost) as disgusted over this as I am positive you are. I looked back through all the catalogues this AM... I thought about the hours of discussion the League of Two Rickies? have had over this and the sad number of times it has happened in the past year. Makes me want to walk away while I still can. But I simply cannot sit on the side and not comment on what I think is an illegal action on the part of some of our fellow collectors. I cannot tell you how many times I have bitten my tongue over these types of posts. After all, not saying it's wrong is the same as saying it's right. I sit on the side line and I watch the anger and frustration in my friends and fellow collectors... I watch the scheming and under the table dealings and in my opinion, this makes us just as wrong as the folks who ordered it to be broken up in the first place.
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Victoria Cross for sale on E-bay
Stogieman replied to yank44's topic in Great Britain: Orders, Gallantry, Campaign Medals
Not really, as any good business person, they're realizing there's an entire class of collector, some with very, very deep pockets that wouldn't even know who they are. if anything, when an auctioneer like DWB, or Spink... or any number of the reputable US auction houses start down this road I think it will tend to improve eBay's image, not detract from the auctioneer's. As an interesting side bar, despite eBay's rather stringent "ant-hate" denial of people like me & you selling WW2 german items, a check of any of these live auctioneers wares will find the very same banned items listed. Just one more case of "Do as we say, not as we do".... Also, I am always stunned at what the value of these VC's are. I tend to think the estimate is probably a little low for this one... -
Claudio, you're missing the point... As distasteful as most of us find what has happened, Herr Theis is performing the task he was hired to do by the current owner(s) of Mr. Seymour's estate. Nothing more, nothing less. He is doing as requested by his client, which morality and higher purpose aside, is exactly what any reasonable business person can be expected to do under these circumstances. As long as we are on a morality kick, explain to me why it is any more moral for you, or Paul C, or any others to now publicly and privately collude to fix prices and reduce bidding on any of these lots? IMO, you're all being very hypocritical. Theis is not breaking the law. You are. Collusion of bidders and price fixing is illegal in any country you choose to name.
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Kriegsmarine Cased U-Boat Spange
Stogieman replied to Stan's topic in Germany: Third Reich: Wehrmacht Medals, Decorations & Awards
Marcus, check the silk lining for the lid/hinge.... see the weave pattern? -
Hallo mon ami, the last one is indeed a very special photo! Thanks!!!!!
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The cased Military LS Bar originally came from Detlev Niemann about 1999, if memory serves. I have never seen a miniature bar before, or since. What surprised me was when the Fire LS Bar popped up in the same case, it was obviously correct.... perfect match for the case I already had. But was really surprising was the value assigned to the bar itself by J?rg Nimmergut. Apparently, there's not many of these around.
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EK 1914 Urgent Help on 1813 EK2
Stogieman replied to DavidM's topic in Germany: All Eras: The Iron Cross
Looks like a ground down 1914 that was buried for awhile to me. Core doesn't look right at all Frame is not consistent with originals I have seen/handled/owned -
EK 1914 Put Some Iron In Your Cross
Stogieman replied to Ralph A's topic in Germany: All Eras: The Iron Cross
Now THAT's funny!