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Hi Igor, You are on the right track Nice find

Viktor Károly István Antal Reitzner, heidelbergi Birth: July 30 1844 - Bártfa Death: July 3 1916 - Meran, Südtirol Parents: János heidelbergi Reitzner and Károlina Gunia Brother: Félix Partner: Leona Mária Anna Bosnyák Children: Hilda and Viktor That is the information i was able to find so far i will keep looking

Hi 922F, Yes i noticed that the Star body is like the old style Austrian Stars. We can speculate that this could be specially commissioned Set to this person due to his rank and position in the society. The other question is is the Set 1st Class or 2nd Class with a "special' Star It is difficult to measure the cross on the photo The order on the medal bar is more likely an Officer Class The Knight Class of this Model is a bit slimmer ..and also rarely awarded Hi Dave Danner, I tried to Google search this Person No susses Can you list any link Best

Hi New World, Perhaps Igor means something else Let's him clarify his point As far i can comprehend his main point is whether the Order of St Alexander was awarded to ladies with special for ladies attachments and ribbons I do not know this answer and Igor might get more hints to solve this mystery Cheers

Hi 922F, This type of Stars are introduced by King Boris when the Grand Cross was created. I have seen, as you stated only handful luxury stars of that type from previous models and all they were awarded to other Royals or VIPs What i found interesting is that the 1st Class cross was worn as a neck badge. They had to be very impressed by the look of the those big crosses, especially the reverse side. I suspect those Stars, as you stated to be made by the top Austrian and /or French makers at that time

Hi Igor, You have done a superb research. The Cross is really silver gilded with Gold central medallions You can see the marks on the reverse of the crowns arms The size is 55 mm wide. Comparing with the next Prince Ferdinand Model of the 1st Class Cross It is slimmer, however the width and the height are the same -55 mm

Hi Igor, It could be for ladies We need to explore further

Superb Set Congrats It will be nice if you can get more information

This is very interesting I have seen on few photos 1st Class crosses worn on neck ribbon, Also see the Star on this photo -luxury model

Hi New World, It is strange indeed. I looked the photos of the other items of this Auction they look different. Perhaps, they used photos submitted by the persons who sell the items, thus the different quality

Hi New World, I assumed the same, however Igor has to clarify. Also, I can not see the connection of this post with the topic

Hi Igor, What do you mean "these two orders came from the same house"? Were they awarded to the same person? ..or anything else. I know the history of the early Order of St Alexander. It was offered to me twice by two different sellers before you got a hold of it

Hi Duncan, That is wise Having one or few in your collection will give you invaluable "hands on" experience for your future collecting. We all have been through this period No one is bullet proof Cheers

I agree with Alex K comments SlimWill, you can relax ..and sleep well now ..and enjoy the Show

Hi Great Dane It is Great Group Cheers

The chance to buy an original 1914 Original Grand Cross or any Grand Cross of the iron Cross is extremly slim. There are only handful awarded and made. Al those so called "old copies' "wearer copy" Museum copy' terms are to increase the value of the item I had my share in this and I sold them I liked them for a while, however i had to make my mind whether i have to have such items in my collection, I admit that they were good for display. The point is whether a collector is happy to keep in their collection or not...and whether they y like them or not The collector's value is less relevant Also how much they want to spend on those items. It is personal choice The sellers can label them anything to sell and make profit/living Cheers

Hi Igor, I managed to track the Set on the Auction site It is reasonable starting price I will not bid on it. At the moment I am having a rest from collecting till the world situation is getting more normal ...if at all Like the Russians say : Nu Poziviom i Uvidim Cheers

Hi Duncan, I agree with 992F In my opinion those nearly mint look gild medals you can see on the market are modern reproductions You correctly noticed that the quality of those medals is inferior compared to the original. As long as the price is also very low we can consider them as what we call 'collector's copies" They are meant mostly for the novices in the collecting world to start from somewhere without the price of the originals. You can see many of those copies on eBay or other Platforms Those Platforms, although they claim that they are regulated, in fact they are not. They have their own place in the collectors market Also many novices are attracted by shiny medals till they realize sooner or later that shiny does not mean value .it is just appearance The problem is when not very honest sellers try to sell them as original items and demand higher price for a profit Cheers

Hi Jerome, Thank you for the nice information. Yes it is a lovely Group Cheers

Yes. It is nice to see all those uniforms..and in good condition

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Hi Elmar Lang, Thank you for sharing this nice group with the members of this forum. That is great that it comes with a good provenance I assume you have enjoyed it very much The silk piece of cloth is more likely part of an original ribbon from that period . It was used to give more dramatic look of the crown of the LOH Regards Graf