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That's right. These crosses were made for the production of medal bars. In this case from the manufacturer Godet. They were not awardet. The price is equal as the lent.

Very nice Hemmerle, production 1914/1915. he third class is the latest version of Leser.

This looks quite good. Leser 1913 second type. here three types of the Leser cross (left first, middle second and right third Type) The third type was also produced with silver guilt medaillons.

Manufacturer was Deschler. Swords without the "D" marking, but it doesn't matter. Not all Deschler-swords were marked.

Nice Hemmerle 2nd class with markings GH on the agraffe and on the swords. On the swords the 900 was ground, since they are silvered from non-ferrous metal and not from real silver. Hemmerle MVO2.bmp

Sorry, but that's a fake. The cross is from the manufacturer Weiss, the swords from Leser. Weiss didn't produce this class. This would be a third class new enameled and guilt.

You are right. 75 medals were made of gold, 11 medals were produced in silver guilt. The medal was awarded by Prinzregent luitpold on the occasion of the 50th anniversary of his membership in the Order of Saint George on 15th dec 1889. Only the members, who take part at this jubilee, were be awarded.

The awarded medals were made of gold, not silver guilt. It is a very rare medal and the most offers are copys.

Thank you for this posting. In a legacy of a Bavarian bravery medalist was also a cross of this club. The soldier was at a Pioneer unit. What is the difference between he silver cross and the blue enameled cross?

I think it was done from the owner after WW2. There are the third Reich medals missing like the airforce servicemedals, hungary warmedal and Sudetenland Anschlussmedaille. There is no ribbon of the KVK II. In WWII the owner wears the ribbon of the KVK in the buttonhole and the ribbon bar in this way. After the war he sew his decorations on the ribbonbar for veterans meetings.

Hello, here my newest entry. A small bar decorated in the fiftys.

In my opinion is this the beautifullest bavarian Award and very rare. Thanks for sharing The bavarian MVK is mountened with the backside in front.

Who was awarded with the diamond cross?

Very nice ribbon bar. Thanks for sharing

That's very interesting. Thanks a lot for showing the documents. The pages are from the "Verordnungsblätter des bayerischen Kriegsarchives, Anhänge." regards Andreas

Hello nice bar. What colour is the saxonia FAM? Is it bronce or silver? I suspect silver, as the bayr. MVK is also a 2nd grade for a Vizefeldwebel (segeant major). regards Andreas

Helo Dave, thank you for the Marine equivalents. There are only a few MVK awardings to Marine soldiers. I am only aware of three ships with a Bavarian connection Bayern, Prinzregent Luitpold and Von der Tann.

Nice collection. The green pins with parts of a bird are awards for a special traditional competition, called "Vogelkönig". see this link. If you seperate one part of this wooden bird, you win the special pin. In your collection are several kinds of shooting pins of traditional and sporting competitions. I think all are shooting pins.

Hello, I am member of a traditional german shootingclub for over 40 years. There are a lot of badges, pins and medals in this organisation. There are awards for traditional shooting like the bar in your picture, given for "Schützenkönig" and other winners of this competition. Also awards for membership in the organisation 25, 40 50... years. Awards for officials in all levels of the shooting organisation and last but not least awards for shooting competitions. Here are some of my pins for shooting competitions from upper franconia and bavaria. Regards Andreas

The middle part has two words, I can't decipher. Landsturmpflichtiger Rekrut Kleine wurde am 14.11.17 zur FEA5, 3. Kompanie und am 3.1.18 zur diess(eitigen) Werftkompanie versetzt. Kommandos: vom 28.2.18 - 2.5.18 zur ??Masch ??? Oberursel zum ??? Germ??? Kursus kommandiert. Ausgebildet als Mot(oren) Schlosser a (m) Type U und UR. Am 11.9.18 zum I. Ers. Batl. Füs(ilier) Regiment 73 nach Hannover versetzt ( stellv(ertretend) Gen(eral) Kommando X A(rmee)K(orps) Ia 59570 vom 31.8.18) k v (kriegsverwendungsfähig) nicht tropendienstfähig Z.1.Z.39

Hellollo CCJ, the level of the MVK depended on the grade at the time of application. If the soldier was later promoted, then the class did not change. It also happened that the MVK was awarded several times to a soldier, so could the class be higher. Here are all classes from wartime and the corresponding ranks: MVK 1st class with crown and swords: middle officials in the war Ministry like paymaster 7 MVK at the warribbon all others with the ribbon of war merit (Beamtenband). It was up to the service, but especially on the addition of "middle officials in the Ministry of War". Some awards after renewed bravery for1st class owner with swords. MVK 1st class with swords: Feldwebelleutnante, middle officials and z. B. field medical assistants, Reichsbahninspektoren MVK 2nd class with crown and swords Officer Deputy, Unterzahlmeister, Musikmeister MVK 2nd class with swords: Deputy Sergeant, Sergeant, Ensign MVK 3rd class with crown and swords: NCOs and sergeants MVK 3rd class with swords: Private and crews Here in german: MVK 1. Klasse mit Krone und Schwertern: mittlere Beamte im Kriegsministerium ( 7 am Kriegsband) Es kam auf die Dienststellung an, aber vor allem auf dem Zusatz "mittlere Beamte im Kriegsministerium". Einige Verleihungen nach erneuter Tapferkeit für Inhaber der 1. Klasse mit Schwertern. MVK 1. Klasse mit Schwertern: Feldwebelleutnante, mittlere Beamte und z. B. Feldhilfsärzte, Reichsbahninspektoren MVK 2. Klasse mit Kr. und Schw.: Offiziersstellvertreter, Unterzahlmeister, Musikmeister MVK 2. Klasse mit Schwertern: Vizefeldwebel, Feldwebel, Fähnriche MVK 3. Klasse mit Krone und Schwertern: Unteroffiziere und Sergeanten MVK 3. Klasse mit Schwertern: Gefreite und Mannschaften I hope you understand my report. I've used the google translator, Regards Andreas

Very nice and rare Picture. A MVK second or first class without swords.

Hello, I do not like the gilding and the shape of the medallion. Here is a picture for comparison. http://www.wikiwand.com/de/Herzoglich_Sachsen-Ernestinischer_Hausorden . Here a silver Knightscross in big picture http://woeschler-orden.de/node/2676

Nice items!

The MVO is a early Hemmerle with golden medaillon.