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Thank you all for the comments As promised, took a while for my camera to get back but here are the close ups, definatley a Croatian silver hallmark and BK here is what I also noticed, is this a hallmark as well? or just random ? (the number 11 looking thing )

Very cool Thanks for the find Larry

It might be an Indian Police Pilot's badge? Not really sure but I'll have a look

It looks very cool Almost looks like something a judge would wear (I have no idea about French Orders, so don't go by me, wait for the experts )

Zvonimir was primarily for NCO of lower classes (which this is) but it was rare for it to be awarded to a Foreign NCO, especially Romanian (more likely German NCO), if a Romanian received a Zvonimir in this time period, it would most likely have been a Merit Medal of Zvonimir of some sort (bronze or iron) a higher class of Zvonimir later in the war to a foreign recipient would have been higher officer.

Its too small, would you be able to make the picture larger? :S sorry

Spot on Usually just avoid all bars now a days for me

I've pmed you for some further talk

It could be probable (I'm not that into bars) but I don't believe I've ever seen a Croatian and Japanese piece together on a bar. The recipient would have to be very good shape for his age. If you could track down any foreign recipients from Romania that match that timeline, it could be possible. Assuming he was 30ish when he received the Sacred Treasure, that would make him older than 50 (depends on 10s or 20s for the Treasure) but I can't see a 50 something solider receiving a Zvonimir with swords late in the war from Croatia, I do know they handed out a lot of Zvonimirs to foreign recipients but.. this would be a rare combo on a late war piece. It is most likely a put together specimen.

Aye. These Canadian specials of ours are getting more and more..."special" The Croatian Zvonimir looks late war issue, which would make the recipient very old

Fantastic grouping Captain Albert

Thank you Nick Now I'm wondering, can I call myself obsessed by checking each serial number in the auction to see if its from awards I'm missing in my groups ?

Do you have this catalogue? in PDF ? You know my, Serbian/Yugoslavian sections hehehe

Wow, they do look different so there is always hope for different style of writing Thank you Nick for finding these

Thank you Pieter One thing which is odd to me is the difference in each writing from the document to the box, each have little differences from each other. If he was more consistent in the document, it is still off in a sense. When you compare just the writing in the document from the archive itself none of them share the exact same way it is written. For example if you take a look at the third character, it is joined in the first circled example while the other two have a small "space" at the connecting point. The size of the first line in the character also differs. The dots themselves are also situated in different sections. In other parts of the archival photo there are similar dots (starting very thin and expanding) to the dots in the box. As for the 4th character, they all share differences as well, if you look at the last example, it is the closest to the box and shares very little difference. The tip of the 4th character on the box itself looks like the ink had run off a little, if you cover one portion where it has run off, it is nearly the same. The only doubt I have is for the 3rd character but since he is inconsistent in each application of it in the archival document, I wouldn't be surprised if each version of his writing this character is different. As well to note, if you look at the curve, he has the same curve in character 1, but on the 3rd the bottom line is thicker, more pooling of ink maybe? The size of the box might also come into play since it is fairly small. The smallest section in the document itself from the archive is #2 picture. How consistent can one be in these writing format? Does ink play any factor to the difference?

Thank you Nick, I see very little difference in the options so I hope other members agree too, but we'll see

Specifically I've asked some of my friends to check this writing and see if it is a match to one another. In short, it is on the box of one of my Serbian Order Rosette Boxes. It is in the set with that order that appears to have been awarded to a Japense recipient, but the writing of it really gives away a possible recipient. (no name of the recipient is listed in the box) I've had my friend look over the Japanese archives and he has found the archival document from the recipient to wear this order. On this box it reads "Serbia" (or Seruyiba in Japanese, I might not have spelled that properly) in the archive document I've picked out 3 other places where it indicates the same from this recipients writing. I am no expert in Japanese characters (I'm not sure how easily it is to be consistent in the characters or how challenging it is to use certain inks etc), but it looks like a match to me. Here is the box and later writing from the archive, I would request the members that take a look at this to comment, whether you believe it a match or not if you have a friend that is a Japanese Expert, would you please direct them to comment here with their opinion (I won't mention other facts just yet since they aren't relevent to the request for assistance) : Here is the box: And from the archival paper I have circled "Serbia" so you know what to look for I've cropped the image on the rest and havn't circled it, but it should be easy to pick out: final shot What do you guys think, match, no match etc? (looking for if the writing on my box could be from the same recipient in terms of hand writing from the archive papers) Any help and assistance is greatly appreciated Thank you all

"Miniature" hehe

It would make a cool addition to my next years Halloween costume, scare all you guys to death

+1 Should be this

If armies fought wars with photos, this photo would win

Meiji looks like a real piece almost custom with very fine detials, everything else looks like "factory" produced :D

Could you post links via photobucket, since the pictures are still very small for me

If NK served in Vietnam it is possible, but unlike the 50s orders and medals (that most are serialed) I don't believe the after 60s version had a serial number If it does have a serial number, I can't make it out in the photo.

Ah this looks like after 1960s model of this order, the first 2 were more like the soviet produced version.