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A few years ago i got a medal bar with: IC on non combatant ribbon, prussian war aid cross, Baden war merit cross, AEZ silver grade and Centenarmedal. It came with an old envelope with the name "Orden Opa Schwarz" (medals grandpa Schwarz) I saw a few bars with the combination of IC non combatant - war aid cross - LSC - AEZ silver grade and Centenarmedal and the persons who earned them were all Zahlmeister (paymaster) So i looked into the Siekmann 1917 and found only one Schwarz who served as an Oberzahlmeister He is on page 283 his unit was Staff / Fieldartilleryregiment 66 (It was stationed at Lahr / Baden), He was born 1860 and his Rangdienstalter was in 1901. He had the AEZ. No more is listed. So if he was born in 1860 he definitely got the Centenarmedal The war aid cross / IC / Baden war merit cross was also awarded after 1917 (- 1924) Does anyone have more information about him ? Thank you very much!

I checked the Siekmann.. damn there are only recipients with BrH Ritter 2.Kl. and combinations of RAO, KO or AEZ medals.... So i have to check the Brunswick book and the Staatshandbuch of 1918... Or is he a civilian?....

Yes of course http://www.zeige.com/index2.html (--> "Braunschweig")

prussian shooting medal

Thanks again. What do we know about him? If he was an official he began after 1897 because of no Centenarmedal, seems that he was prussian. He is not an Intendantur-guy , because he is not listed in the 1929 rank list. I think, that he was still alive in that time. He got the war aid cross between 1917 - 1924. May be he got no 25 LSC because he was too young, that is also the reason why a RAO4 is missing. May be he got the Henry II because of his civil merit (it has no X ) I have to look into the Siekmann.

I don`t know if the brunswick lists of Henry II have the names or only numbers. May be i can find him in the 1929 list.

Thanks ! I should ask Dave D. if it would be possible to ID the bar. I think he was prussian, not a citizen of Braunschweig

...Got some nice stuff. This one arrived today. I bought it on a Auction. My second one with Braunschweig addition. The Henry Lion II. looks good. Between 1912- 1918 only a few hundred were awarded. I think he got it in this era.

Uh... i missunderstood.

I don`t understand the meaning of a part of your posting but i think it means that you will buy both. If yes - you are a typical collector. But i would have done the same.... and don`t tell it your wife.

St. H e i n r i c h - St. H e i n r i c h - St. H e i n r i c h ... .. St. H e i n r i c h rules

I would buy the St Heinrichs one. too

the bavarian non combatant bar is a good one. The crown shows, that he got a class of the Heiliger Michael with crown.

Some cool stuff you have. If you will sell something of it in future please let me know Some bars could get a very nice and warm new home.

I think it was a kind of subaltern-Offizier. (Leutnant/Oberleutnant)

What`s the last one? Oldenburg house order? Or a kind of bravery medal?

I think some kind of marine guy

What do we have here.. Some kind of selfmade non combatant medal bar. The lipper cross and the IC were missing, so i replaced them, not in the best condition but living history. I always like the Wuerttemberg Charlotte cross very much!

Danke Rudi

A good one.

I think it is a good piece. Seems that the IC hook broke. Sometimes you can find that on these versions of bars.

For all who are not members of the WAF. Got this nice bar. As i got it , it had a very bad condition, the IC was damaged and full of rust - the same like the long service clasp, the AEZ was missing. The medals were hanging on the wrong ribbons. I replaced a good IC Godet one with nice patina, the AEZ and a new well conditioned LS-Clasp. Unfortunately some ribbons are not in the best condition, but i like the bar and it`s 80 years old... It`s not easy to find those bars with 3 foreign medals ("Achsenmächte") on it. I also added one of my turkish war medals (BBco) It was preserved with Zapponlack (was used in earlier times for coins, medals and other things... ) Thanks for watching. Joe

may be yes! The bar is a rarer one, but not x-tremely rare. Show me the backside.

Got this very nice group: -4 place medal bar with 2 hanseatics "Frackspange" -ribbon bar -buttonhole - case All made by Ulrich Nachfolger Hamburg, one of my favorite jeweller. The price was very good so i could not say no. 2 or 3 hanseatics on a bar are not easy to find!

Cool bar. Rollo rules. Gruss from Hauptwachtmeister Schulz (08/15)