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Here's the back of my bronze...usual three piece 1964 era piece-nice though...from Charles? type 2.1 You can just see the bad die job on the ribbon-barely-

In case you don't want to go through all that work-FJP had a gold and silver Saudi medal (spangenstuck) on offer that had been made by a Texas jeweler. It is/was superb-a thing of beauty. By the way, this thread would make a nice article in a magazine of some sort-hint-hint-

The hand with the cross (an ancient alarm signal and the precursor for the US KKK cross burning) is commonly used as an arms adornment by many clans-notably the Macdonalds.

Exceptional site! bravo. The original UVF badge is quite good. I have only seen fewer than 20 original pieces in my life in private hands. Copies were manufactured widely starting with Gusty Spence and his lot right through to today. The real (modern) UVF however used them as well as some hand made bullion patches on arm bands. I also saw larger blackened beret badges and they even used U.S. and British rank insignia for officers at one point. Your Masonic/Orange Lodge medals are superb. I never knew they'd had the gall to issue a Siege of Drumcree medal, but Portadown has always been over the top. My Father -in-Law described them as being "thugly" even before the millennium ugliness. I have an extensive Irish collection, but it's all modern. Still, there's some good stories attached to most of the pieces. Should I come across any of the IRB stuff over here, I'll send it to you in the spirit of good forumly comradship. I come across Fenian stuff about once a year or so, but as you can probably guess by my moniker, it's not my forte'..

uh-nice-what is it-PRC navy merit?

what sort of person got an officially named medal but wasn't KIA? what website?

Really good Chris, I am impressed. Any chance we can see what they'll look like all together when you do remount them? Will you name any of them for posterity...or perhaps just the mounting bar itself?

MacDonald's father fought at Culloden. his (father's) memoirs are out there somewhere, but unlocated-possibly in Dresden. But references were made to letetrs he wrote in the 1770s about the Rising.

me too!!

right-thank you. Off to email a few bidders. Cheers!

what's his real name? I have the right to exclude people from bidding and state thusly, so long as I do not do so on the basis of their memebrship in a legally protected class (sexual orientation/gender/race/age/national origin etc). I note that twice now this week I have asked about the real identity of these history rapists and while they are clearly well known to those who discuss these events, everyone is afraid to name names: it's quite an age when everyone is afraid to do anything, even in/for something as minor as this fraudulent transaction...and that's what it is, implicit collusion.

Oh My GOD!!! Glennhas done it again!! What's next-a complete Blood Order ranklist? You are amazing!

ah-"or", I thought so. Thanks

Damn! Why did you sell this? He's destroying history here. That was a unique bar. Who is this person?

Double commemoratives? I didn't think that was allowed.

well, the Hussar ribbon style? For an NCO? Ok, the sword's don't match, but what else...?

Hmmmm...what sort of Bavarian, ex-officer needs two of the thinner "Hussar" type ribbon bars 1935-45? If it's AFTER the Luitpold on both, it MUST either a VERY low precedented German award-or an earlier foreign award. Given it shows up as a German award on the 2nd bar (before the flower war medals), it must be some sort of Bavarian state award that was earned. Hmmmmm-I suspected an Argentine San Martin:Knight, which would put this at @ 1943- and hint at an overseas occupation and/or attache/consul/military adviser etc. etc.

If these were to the same person-then i am leaning towards a senior Bavarian Reichsbahn official. No Wehrmacht Ls-a state LS medal, obvious war time duties in some sort of paramilitary uniform (KVKx were awarded liberally to RAD and NSKK etc. in war zones).....hmmmm....that would lead one to conclude some sort of Chamber of Commerce award.

Really???!! That's the most useful thing I have learned this year so far! (well, only 9 days to be sure...) How can you tell a hollow core by sight? Please tell me/us. I am agog!

Good point-if he does this and makes a profit, then it'll be incentive to do it again-and again-and again. Call the paper. Who is the seller anyway?

hmmmm..again some sort of Bavarian connection. Interesting precedence....so not foreign, but a state LS type award perhaps? However, perhaps we are talking about two different ribbons here: a "close enough" and a foreign (Argentine)?

Well, I'd like to see the backs, but both ostensibly look ok. As everyone pointed out though-they do look very new, too new in my opinion (well, the top one anyway). There are actually lots of ugly homemade bars like this out there in pictures-especially of SA men I notice (cheapskates). While it's odd for the Bavarian not to get the common BMVKx3, award rolls do show that this happened about 35-40% of the time. Indeed, some poor men were in the entire war and got nothing but a LS medal. The backwards EK was common-both as a mistake (Rick even has Generals pictures of this) and perhaps as a "I ain't no stinken Prussian" statement. Hessentahl and Schreiber (book) is the place to start , followed by Neal OConner's books...and then read every post here in the imperial sections going back to the beginning of time and all will be well. The Saxon one is odd for a bronze FA medal (private) given the LS medal, as one would expect at least an Unterofficers' rank based upon 6 years service alone (double time in war) but this did happen...in those days there really were career privates, or people who made it to Unterofficer, did something stupid/naughty and went back down again. Or the man only earned one FA and did so at a lower rank.

perhaps- I never noticed, but I never looked. What does Hunyadi say? An article in the making.....?

I vote yes-at it'll make research easier in a few years.

Interesting "Maiblume" book and documents. Most went into the fire in late 1945.