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Fantastic!! Oh how i wish I had been there!

looks a lot like the old London Times font/print. i like the fact that you can see Lt. Col. Potens' medal (a single "9") on the register. Talk about provenance. ....that's about as good as it gets.

7th Line Bttn! That may explain the two Carl Poten medals. Where was that detachment?

No clue but I suspect Cuban. Who was the General? Do you have his career details?

Looks like you found the RUSI cards on-line. I have the old xeroxed edition (I am a member of RUSI since 1988 too). Nafziger used to be the editor of Napoleon magazine. He privately publishes VERY in-depth orders of battle and lots of good reprints of obscure military recollections, esp. by old Napoleonic vets. he would LOVE to see the diary you just purchased. I translate the Page 600 (actually officer #666 in Beamish) excerpt as the chap who had this medal. Also, Beamish's comprehensive Kings German legion History listed (almost) all KGL officers in his 1837 book. An index of medals and campaigns, as well as short biographies is listed in the book. The index of abbreviations is @ page 520 and is available on googlebooks, as Bear noted. Poten enlisted/commissioned 10-17 July 1810, P.=Penninsula, N.G.=North Germany,N=Netherlands, W=Waterloo and C=1815 campaign. I'm damned if I can figure out how he had a Waterloo medal. There is a Conrad Poten in the 1st hussars and I'd wager cash that the good Lt. was the son of the famous Ernst Poten of the Hussars. The 1st hussars were an elite unit and had a tremendous number of NCOs who got the Guelphic medal for various exploits. The Peninsula cards often note a Waterloo medal, but my VERY old Traditions booklet doesn't have KGL. BWM here means "Battle of Waterloo Medal". HWM=Hanover Waterloo medal. For any of youse who'd like to follow along, do a google search on "Napoleonic Series" then click in the middle of the page on the "Peninsula Roll Call". It is a VERY special medal, Werner Von Brauns' predecessor!! There's also an anonymous Kings German Legion memories by one of the officers of the 7th on-line. It details at length the 7th's travels from Spain and the (re) occupation of Naples in 1813/14. The 7th suffered terrible losses in a shipwreck.

.....reading the RUSI cards (which have many mistakes in them) and the KGL history, Poten had an interesting career, entered 10th July 1810, served briefly as I said above in Spain, then being shipped off to Naples with another battalion and the 73rd...going to Northern Germany with Hackett , somehow being noted in the Netherlands in 1814 and with a notation for Waterloo. however, I only find the Poten of the 8th-a very different person, noted at Waterloo. There was also an August Poten. By the way Bear-Nafzigers' library is for sale.

He was back in Spain in August 1812-April 1813. Then he was in the Netherlands. he may have been at Waterloo. Further research shows he may have been with THE BRITISH ROCKET BATTERY at the battle of Leipzig.!!!! :speechless1:

Odette!! An Odette connection. Gold!! Musem quality. I think you get the MVP prize for best historical piece on GMIC this month (and there has been some VERY stiff competition, esp. given that 5th Curassiers' 1809 Diary). Now THAT is a fantastic piece..... A REAL resistance hero and Buchenwald survivor to boot! Had you an inkling when you bid on this?

I would be VERY interested in seeing this. I spent a good chunk of time last year going through the Catholic Encyclicals from 1880-1920 looking at medal awards.

Are those Medina Division triangles? There are all sorts of old photos of these being worn (apparently most were cloth) in parades on google images.

Yeah- I did a quick look at some of my research stuff and later will brave the attic to see if I can glean anything, but my guess is that is a French-style, but US market oriented, private purchase piece for one of the New England Hussar militia companies that were popular from @ 1840-1900.

wow!! That is very nice. I wonder if Hueningen has manufacture numbers?

very cool. Were these given to Bhagdad municpal employees etc? ..or were they handed out en masse?

:cheers: good deal-looks minty. need a ribbon?

Ah ha!! You got that snap. I was bidding on it too. Nice collar device. I especially liked the stripes on the jacket too-an older NCO who wanted people to know who was still who. Was it Richthofen in the other picture?

:Cat-Scratch: ...took the corner on the bike a bit too fast did we?

wicked nice-as always. What sort of chap got this type of bar? Senior NCO level Paymaster? Beameter?

Tres bon! Can you tell us perchance what the different clasps were awarded for? What sorts of troops got these? I know almost nothing about Frances' Moroccan exploits.

I heard through the grapevine that Wilkinson of London actually made Swords of Honour that were presented with this piece. Does anyone know if they have any records of these swords?

That is FANTASTIC!! The photo really makes the piece too.

the back-

Amidst a pile of old Boy scout patches, some WW2 US patches, many, many band and cheerleading patches I found this. It does not glow. Methinks it would make a "so long, farewell out there on the sunny beach Paul R". present. Question is, is it pre-1945 of Bundeswehr? I know not much about german cloth. Thanks-

yeah-great link. Thanks, did anyone notice the editors' pick story lower right about the Catholic Priest whose received the legion d'Honner for interviewing and documenting the activities of the Einsatzgruppen in the former USSR? Really chilling stuff.

Yeah- but for a brave Gefreiter/Unterofficer?

oh!? How late were they awarded? I think I have posted this chap before-an old Prussian @ 1875 who had his picture taken in Washington D.C., USA.