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Of course but this is not what I mentioned. The StHM is on the third position not on the second where it should be. Regards Alex

I'd like to show a saxon medal bar with an unusual order. Regards Alex

This one. All other pieces are from air ships. Regards Alex

Another highlight The Ehrenpreis of LtzS Theodor Lodemann (23.07.1894 - 04.07.1918) awarded 11.06.1918. The group of LtdRMI Karl Wippermann last leader of Landflugstation Nordholz.

the highlight of this exhibition. The group of FrgKpt Peter Strasser (FdL)

I want to bring this thread alive with some impressions from the special exhibition to the 100th anniversary of the german naval aviation service. This exhibition is open until 31. August 2014 at the Aeronauticum / Nordholz. An overview

here a picture of Mathy's group from the Technikmuseum at Berlin. But look, another Mathy dagger. Sorry for the bad quality but i don't have better pictures. This is the result of bad light condition and no flash. Regards Alex

Yes i saw the picture. Yes it is a stamped badge. But without better pictures it is hard to rate the badge. I know of two genuine see pilot badges, even if Baldes doesn't show one in his book :-) Regards Alex

Apart of the fact that the pinback awards are mounted on the bar, i would say that the medal bar itselfs is genuine. I can't assess the bars, especially the "2.SEEFLIEG.ABT." but possible that this are original too. We need better pictures of the see pilot badge but it looks better than the common fakes. The army wound badge doesn't match to an navy pilot but overall it doesn't look bad. This include not, even if all awards are original, that the group is original. Regards Alex

I want to post this vary nice picture of an unknown ottoman officer with pilot badge. This picture was taken in germany at the RFA 501 (giant plane unit). Regards Alex

Oberkommando von Mackensen. Türk. Bevollm. Generalstab?? Regards Alex

Here my one and only document. Awarded to Hptm Hans Arndt as leader of Feldfliegerabteilung 66 (later renamed to Fliegerabteilung 34) , Xanthi (Bulgaria). And here the german document Regards Alex PS: Thank to demir for translating this document

Here my contribution. A german navy NCO and member of the navy see flying station at Constanta (Romania). Regards Alex

Sorry Rick but is this a requirement for questions. If so most of the users had no contribution to the research community, including me. In this special case you have one of the best aviation experts on this planet, and a vary gentle person. I think Gunnar help everyone who ask for help. That's the experience I made with him. Don't forget that there are more ways of publication than this forum or online cuminities. Gunnar was involved and many publications of other authors. He was more in the background. But without his knowledge most of this publications have not been realized. Not all make the research in the limelight as you. Regards Alex

What a outstanding bar. look at the Hamburg cross ist is a nice silver version. I hope it could be identified. Regards Alex

The signature on the second log book could be of KptLt Alfred Edler who was the leader of SFS Putzig from 13.06.1918. He came to Putzig from SFS Flensburg where he was the leader of the training unit. I'm sure Gunnar has more infos about him. Regards Alex

What a great group you showed here. Really great documents. I would be vary glad to read all the pages of his log books. This contains a lot of important informations about the training of navy pilots. It seems he had a single-seater training short after his pilot training. I have a log book of an navy land pilot who had a simillar training. First a basic pilot training and after that the single-seater training at the school at Langfuhr. This was the second single-seater school of the navy. I think your grandfather never was involved as pilot in WW1. Regards Alex

There is no award of the Ehrenpreis documented to Christoph Ullmann. Also to the other guy. Regards Alex

This is Not correct. I saw regular Ehrenpreise awarded 1918. Like the One awarded to Fl.Ob.Mt. Giese on 23.05.18 or the One to Lt.z.S. Lodemann from 11.06.18. This are only two example. I saw the one from Weitze and the other one you mention. I don't know what this are but since I don't see a group coming with a document no one know if this was a official replacement for the Ehrenpreis. If I remember the other one comes with a name of an pilot who don't have an confirmed victory. I think it is not useful to make baseless rumors. Regards Alex

Thank you for posting this nice pictures. I'm sure there are more collectors out there who have similar pictures. Friedrichshafen FF33e # 824 was from lot #822-841. From the same lot like the FF33e #841 called "Wölfchen". The famous a/c onbord of SMS Wolf. I have only a note that # 824 was at Wilhelmshaven. But pictures with FF33 are not realy rare. Regards Alex

Thanks to all collectors who contribute to this thread. I know that not many have pieces related to this area. Regards Alex

I hear there a little sarcasm I love it but it seems we are the only one who like this navy stuff. Regards Alex

This is one of my favorite navy related pieces from my collection. I think today is a good day to present it. It is the group of Vz.Fl.Mst.d.R. Ludwig Klotz, pilot at R-Flugzeugkommando (giant plane commando) at the Seeflugzeug-Versuchs-Kommando (SVK) Warnemünde. The plane on this picture is the navy version (L) of an Staaken R.VI with floats carried the military number 1432 called "Lisbet". The only one built. The plane arrived at Warnemünde at November 1917. Not much is known about Klotz. He was born on 30.09.1895 at Offenbach near Frankfurt am Main. 1917 he was at SFS Helgoland. Got the see pilot badge on 24.04.1917 and was promoted to Vizeflugmeister der Res. on 27.02.1918. In front of the plane is the crew: KptLt.d.R.M.A. Karl Vollmer Lt.z.S. Hermann Haller (observer) VzFlMst. Ludwig Klotz (pilot) FlObMt. Wilhelm Braun (pilot) F.T.Mt. Max Schöning (radio operator) MechMt. Walter Brix (machinist) FlMechObGst. Thomas Freudenberger (machinist) MechGst. Konrad Knüpfer (machinist) The plane crashed on 3rd Aug. 1918 during a test flight at Warnemünde and the entire crew died on this day.

The man in the middle could be Olt.d.R. Heyer (first name?) an army officer who served within the navy during WW1. Heyer got the navy observer badge on 23.10.1915 and became leader of Hallenschutzstation (HSS) Hage on 22.04.1916. Jan. 1918 he became leader of LFS Nordholz. So possible we see here the personal of the HSS Hage (unit for protection of the airship base). Regards Alex

There are seven guys with badges. I have many names of flying personal of the LFS Hage but i can't allocate it to the persons on this picture without a date. Most interesting is the man in the middle (seventh from right). Maybe the leader of the unit. This officer wear a army uniform i guess but he have an navy aviation badge (can't see what kind of). Possible this man could be named. Regards Alex